Speeding

I am going to the gymn, be back later. Please give an answer "do you believe the saved are born again of an incorruptible seed?"

 

Claudia, you haven't answered yet... I like Bapmom's answer..

And my answer...Yes you will go to Heaven... you will just get there faster!!! lol

Back to Bapmom's answer...
I have heard that we can be fruit inspectors in order to determine whether someone is saved...

When we were growing up, we had an old apple tree on my granddaddy's farm... That stupid thing never would produce an apple.... (at least by the time I came along)

Anyway... Was it still an apple tree?

 

And you consider 3 mile over the same as 156 mile over. Now which one is sane?

Sometimes people destroy their own argument by going too far.

 

The problems comes when we start trying to define "fruit" and take that one-time fruit as proof or disproof of another person's salvation.

Being Christ-like is a different topic than salvation. Those who are saved ought also to be Christ-like.....and they are being turned into Christians. BUt they are also all on the journey towards Christ-likedness. We haven't arrived yet, and there will be rotten fruit dropped along the way. We might have years where we are totally unfruitful, also.

Oftentimes I think we attempt to impose our particular speed limit onto others, as well. Other people are growing at a different rate than you are, and you have to remember that. Some are faster, and some are slower.

 

Tim;
Wonder what Jesus meant by the following scriptures?

Luk 6:43¶For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Jesus used the "tree" to show us the difference between the righteous and unrighteous. He must of not imagined we would bring up a tree in the barnyard that never bore fruit. How you know it was an apple tree if it never bore any fruit. Just because it looked like it. Jesus spoke of those who clean up the outside but inwardly they were raving wolves.

 

What about being born of an "incorruptile seed". What about being "cleansed" by the blood of the Lamb. Are we waiting for that also.

 

I assume the point that's being made is that sin is sin, no matter how little or big. According to God, one sin is just as bad as the other. No matter what sin you have committed, you have broken God's law and the punishment is the same for all sins, eternal death.
James 2:10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. So, if the only sin I ever committed was telling a lie, I am still guilty of murder, adultery, idolatry, ect. because to break one is to break them all. Thank God for Jesus, who took my punishment!!!!!
:jesus: is Lord!

 

That is the Ten Commandments not just any sin.
1Jo 2:4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

So, now you say there is a difference. Same is true with speeding and adultery.

And all sin are not the same with God, according to Jesus. There is a sin and there is a sin unto death.

 

Are they a Christian? If they were one when they got in the car, probably so


The Bible says clearly we will fall and fail all the time. Thats why we have an Advocate.

I dont believe we should wilfully sin. You can go over the speed limit not realizing it or you can go over the speed limit knowing full well you are doing it, then there are those Christians who dont even realize its a sin to go over the speed limit.

I think to God, those things matter. its the wilfully sinning that is bad.

But Christians will sin, the Bible tells me so. They need to repent though.

 

Tim,

Im sorry, I didnt even realize there was a first question to answer, I sorta got lost in all the commotion

 

I don't understand your point. Sin little, sin big, same outcome.

 

All sin is the same Bro. Bob. It is breaking God's law. ALL sin is punishable by death.

 

But JJ in Proverbs it DOES spell out certain sins God HATES... not as if He likes the other sins but it does seem that there could be a thing such as degrees of sin, right? maybe?

 

My point Amy;
1Jo 5:16If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

 

Scripture says so.

1Jo 5:16If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
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