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Stay home on election day?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Ps104_33, Dec 30, 2007.

  1. Ps104_33

    Ps104_33 New Member

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    There are alot of folks here who say that if certain republicans are nominated (like Giuliani) they will not vote.
    This is a question for the Democrats around here.

    Is there a nominee in the democrat field that would cause you to stay home on election day if they would get the nomination?

    Also a question for Republicans:

    Is there a democrat that you could live with in the event that they win the White House?
     
  2. Sopranette

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    Republicans, Democrats...sure, stay home.:)

    Voting is the first step to resisting tyranny, peacefully.

    Vote to make yourself heard. Vote because you want what's best for this nation. Vote because you have the freedom to do so, bought and paid for with blood by brave men and women.

    love,

    Sopranette
     
  3. Chessic

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    I'm an independent, though I usually end up voting republican. I could not vote for a democrat this election because all of them that I know of are pro-abortion. Even if a pro-life democrat came along, it would be hard to vote for them because I wouldn't want to support the rest of the pro-abortion party.
     
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    I could live with Edwards more than any other Democrat.
     
  5. JustChristian

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    I NEVER stay at home for an important election. I fell that it is my patriotic duty to vote especially in Presidential elections. Consider this. American and Iraqi lives are being lost in large numbers to bring democracy to that country. At least that's what the President says. You're asking under what circumstances would I not vote. NONE.

    By the way, God is not a Republican as you seem to believe.
     
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    We'll put you down as a strong maybe... :laugh: :wavey:
     
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  8. StefanM

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    If the GOP nominates Giuliani, I will probably abstain from the presidential election. I would either vote for no one, or, if the ballot required a vote, I would vote for a random third party candidate. I would then vote in the rest of the contests. I do not buy the argument that I MUST vote for someone, even if I detest the positions of both candidates. Abstaining from a vote out of conscience does not make me any less of an American. It certainly does not dishonor the American soldiers or any other individual.

    A part of our freedom is the choice whether or not to vote. The constitution grants us freedom of the press, but I am free to be illiterate (I'm not :)). I am given freedom of religion, but I am free to have no religion (though obviously I am a Christian).

    Our civic duty is not to vote. It is to obey the laws as long as they are consistent with God's commands.

    Imagine a scenario:

    Following the nuclear attacks of 2023, which decimated Boston and Orlando, the Constitution of the United States was amended drastically to allow for the executive branch to exercise greater power in the war on terror. The Bill of Rights still remains, but the President now has the authority to temporarily suspend the rights therein in the interest of "national security" for up to 3 months at a time, after which the emergency powers must be extended by a vote of Congress.

    Fear of minor party subversion, especially from newly-formed parties such as the American Party for Islamic Progress, has led most states to heavily restrict third-party candidates to the point at which no third party can raise enough support to put their presidential candidate on the ballot.

    An election looms, only a few decades after the nuclear attacks, and the tension is beginning to rise. The evangelical Christian community has dwindled in the aftermath of the nuclear attacks, and the prevailing sentiment of the American populace includes a rejection of "religious extremism," including everything from actual violence to perceived "bigotry" such as rejection of homosexuality and an doctrine of exclusive salvation. While not illegal, evangelical and fundamentalist Christianity has become so offensive to the general population that churches have either been driven underground or have bowed to the pressures of society in order to remain open and visible. The "Christian Right," so to speak, no longer exists.

    Two major candidates have emerged...

    1) The candidate of the New American Progressives hails from San Francisco, California. His stance of hardline social liberalism comes with a heavy dose of socialistic and authoritarian policies. As a prominent atheist, he openly despises conservative Christianity, orthodox Judaism, and fundamentalist Islam, but he is willing to endorse a benign religious pluralism that respects the "values" of the nation. He wants to take steps to infiltrate the underground religious groups, claiming that "All manner of subversion is occurring in our land, and it comes from these religious bigots who do not share our values. We did not fight strongly against them in the past, and Boston and Orlando paid the price."

    2) The candidate of the American Liberty Party comes from Atlanta, Georgia. Having served as the Governor of the state, she pioneered efforts to increase the strength of the state police, resulting in a police force whose abusive actions against "rebellious and seditious behavior" have suppressed almost all free speech in Georgia. She pledges to bring such an approach to the White House. Her party maintains that a secure society requires registration of all groups, including documentation of the location, members, and the purpose of the organization. Underground and/or house churches will be strictly prohibited, forcing evangelical Christians either to endure public scorn and violence or to violate the law while remaining secretive.

    You, a member of an underground church in Maryland, have a choice to make.

    Which candidate do you support in the election?

    Remember, it is your civic duty to vote. Good luck.
     
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  10. Brother Bob

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    Not me, I am a woman man myself..........:laugh: :laugh:

    BBob,
     
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    As opposed to what? Dying?
     
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    Does that mean you are voting for Hillary? :tonofbricks:
     
  13. Brother Bob

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    I think all the Republicans should just stay home and not vote. I would have a sit down.........What you think Bible Believing Bill?

    I will not be voting for Osama!!
     
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    If my only choices in November were one of the current crop of Democratic presidential candidates and a Republican candidate other than Ron Paul or maybe Fred Thompson, I would simply skip the presidential race on my ballot. Fortunately, that will not be the case in Arkansas. The Libertarian Party has already met the requirements to have its presidential candidate on the ballot. Usually there are several minor party presidential candidates on the Arkansas ballot. The Democrats and Republicans who control the government of Arkansas don't mind having a plethora of presidential candidates on the ballot. But they make it very difficult for minor parties/independent candidates to qualify for the ballot for statewide offices on down. However, the Green Party was able to do so in 2006 and the Libertarian Party is hoping to follow suit in 2010 when we vote on statewide offices again.
     
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    There is no Democrat I would vote for this election. If I was forced to choose one, it would be Richardson. The same goes for Giuliani and Romney.
     
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    ==I can "live" with any of them. However I do believe that the modern Republican and Democratic parties are a threat to our constitution and our liberties.
     
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    Dodd, Biden, but especially Richardson who said he hoped Dems didn't always resort to higher taxes to fix the country's problems.

    ETA: I don't plan on voting for any Dem.
     
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    "Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the powerless is to side with the powerful, not to be neutral."

    Paulo Freire
     
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    ETA: someone missed this tidbit of KenH's post, "If my only choices[SNIP]"

    (Bolding mine.)
     
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    I had asked on another post why no one seemed to support Mccain. The one reason was "McCain- Feingold" and a freedom of speech issue. Does everyone realize here that Fred Thompson supported the bill? Just curious as to why one would hold McCain's feet to the fire on this issue and not Thompson.
     
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