Stop National ID Database

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  1. JGrubbs

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    HR 10 legislates the creation of a national ID database that will contain the name and personal information of every person in America. It also standardizes state drivers licenses to pave the way for a national ID card. Worse yet, it authorizes the Attorney General to force businesses to submit information about job applicants to the government for approval, and even to give the government fingerprints and other biometric information. These steps lay the foundation for a police state. These provisions would give unelected bureaucrats the power to make American citizens NON-PERSONS without due process of law. THIS MUST BE STOPPED.

    In addition to creating a national ID card and database:

    1. H.R. 10 will seek more integration of our foreign policy with that of the U.N. (Section 4032).

    2. H.R. 10 will train U.S. diplomats to be more attuned with the United Nations and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and other anti-democratic globalist organizations (Section 4034). The OSCE will be sending over 100 foreign observers to monitor the U.S. elections on Nov. 2, as reported by the Washington Times today.

    3. H.R. 10 will create a new U.S. "ambassador-at-large" to work with U.N. nongovernmental organizations or NGOs. This would set a very dangerous precedent (Section 4035).

    According to Congressman Ron Paul, "The 9-11 Recommendation Implementation bill (HR 10) is yet another attempt to address the threat of terrorism by giving more money and power to the federal bureaucracy. The result of most of the reforms contained in this bill will not likely be a safer America, but will definitely be a less free America."

    I found out they are voting on this today, call your Congressman's DC office and tell them to vote against HR 10.
     
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    The more you learn about this 542 page bill, the worse it gets - I've taken to calling it, "The Patriot Act on Steroids." I thank Gun Owners of America for the following research...

    (1) The government database is created by section 2173 of HR 10, a bill introduced by House Speaker Dennis Hastert. It would allow airline passengers to be screened against lists containing "all appropriate records." What would be "appropriate" would be within the exclusive discretion of the bureaucrats, but could include medical records, confidential financial records, library records, and gun records. Note: regulators have already signaled that they will take this as a mandate to create a national ID database, and the House has done nothing to counter this idea.

    This is one of a host of tricks politicians use to be able to claim that they're not really doing what they are in fact doing. Don't be fooled!

    (2) The driver's license standards are in section 3052. They would allow the federal government to set standards as high as desired to determine who may or may not obtain a driver's license. Please note that you need a driver's license (or similarly regulated state-issued photo ID) to purchase a gun from a dealer. But, increasingly, you also need it to travel on any form of transportation (airplane, bus, train, car), to get a job, to open a checking account, to cash a check, to check into a hotel, to rent a car, or to purchase cigarettes or alcohol. If the federal government can set standards so high as to deny you a driver's license or photo ID, it has effectively turned you into a non-person.

    (3) Section 2142 would allow the U.S. attorney general to promulgate any regulations he desires concerning
    (a) what employers must submit the names and fingerprints of all employment applicants to the FBI,
    (b) what standards the government will use in approving or disapproving the employment applicants, and
    (c) whether or not the government's "disapproval" will prevent the applicant from being hired.

    There is nothing in section 2142 which would prohibit an attorney general from
    (a) requiring the resumes and fingerprints of every employment applicant in the country,
    (b) disapproving them on the basis of gun ownership or, for that matter, any factor he viewed as not being politically correct, and
    (c) prohibiting any employer from hiring an applicant thus blacklisted.

    (4) Plus this bill is so full of hastily- and ill-conceived anti-gun, anti-freedom provisions that you would need hours to learn them all.

    And as if that's not enough,

    (5) H.R. 10 will seek more integration of our foreign policy with that of the U.N. (Section 4032).

    (6) H.R. 10 will train U.S. diplomats to be more attuned with the United Nations and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and other anti-democratic globalist organizations (Section 4034). The OSCE will be sending over 100 foreign observers to monitor the U.S. elections on Nov. 2, as reported by the Washington Times today.

    (7) H.R. 10 will create a new U.S. "ambassador-at-large" to work with U.N. nongovernmental organizations or NGOs. This would set a very dangerous precedent (Section 4035).
     
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    Is this going to replace the current national ID card - the Social Security card - or be in addition to it?
     
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    Latest Major Action: 10/8/2004 House floor actions. Status: Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union rises leaving H.R. 10 as unfinished business.
     
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