Such a Peaceful Religion

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  1. Revmitchell

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    The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other American staff members were killed Tuesday in an attack on the U.S. consulate in the Libyan city of Benghazi, the White House confirmed. President Obama, in a written statement issued Wednesday morning, called the attack "outrageous" and "senseless."

    Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens was killed Tuesday night when he and a group of embassy employees went to the consulate to try to evacuate staff. The protesters, angry over a film that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad, were firing gunshots and rocket-propelled grenades.

    "I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi, which took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens," President Obama said in a statement Wednesday morning. "Right now, the American people have the families of those we lost in our thoughts and prayers. They exemplified America's commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe, and stand in stark contrast to those who callously took their lives."

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ers-reportedly-killed-in-libya/#ixzz26G4QPimj
     
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    I also notice those who scream "tolerance of religion" don't have much to say. Goes to show what they really feel.

    I agree - "peaceful religion" does not describe Islam.
     
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    I don't believe this is a coincidence that this occurred on 911.
     
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    This is a huge issue for the President (1980 hostage crisis anyone) who needs to approach it carefully. The difficult thing is there is literally no recourse.

    Personally I don't understand how these protestors can storm a US Embassy and not get a chest full of led? Were the dlplomatic security forces told not to secure the Embassy? These are trained Marines...I can't understand how these protestors could do this and not be fired upon in defense.

    I'm curious how many of us in the board have been to these majority Muslim countries?

    These are generally uneducated people who have been told all their loves they are duty bound to defend Islam. The insanity of their responses isn't doing their religion much good. So what is the response? Carpet bomb the whole region? I mean really, what is it?

    Islam is in a very precarious place right now. The extremists are running the religion. They're bordering on a major reformation due to the growing availability of their holy book in a number of languages. This is another horrible example of how they are willing to step back and destroy anything they disagree with and any perceived threat.

    I'm stunned this has happened, and I'm even more stunned nothing was done to stop the crowd.
     
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    There was two Marine stationed here and they fought to the death. The exterior security which is provided by the nationals was lacking in a major way. The details of what happened is still not known.
     
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    PIJ: According to the web, the US Embassy in Libya was "guarded only by Libyan security."

    There you go.
     
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    Its wrong, every embassy is guarded by Marines without fail.
     
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    It is a cloudy issue right now.

    I did notice that the Ambassador was traveling outside the embassy/consulate when he was attacked and killed.

    This is still ridiculous. I'm really seeing some parallels with the hostage crisis that ultimately unseated President Carter.
     
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    Of course not. A group stages this on the eleventh anniversary of the attacks then raises the al qaeda flag over our embassy is making a statement that they are resolved to continue on.



    They remember 9/11.
     
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    We can start by halting ALL foreign aid to Egypt and Libya. Need $$ for submarines? Tough. Need food? Not from us. Want the US to buy your oil? Forget it, we can drill for our own here in the USA. We need to hit them where it hurts, right in the pocketbook.

    Of course, "O" will just do what he always does--open his mouth and talk, talk, talk, while doing nothing. That's the wrong way to deal with these playground bullies, and encourages them to keep it up.
     
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    I agree. The hostage crisis lasted well over a year and was on the news everyday. Also, a few days ago, there were several terrorists attacks in Iraq. For all the time, money and lives we spent on that country, it will eventually be as bad as it was in the first place. One cannot be friends with nations that have nothing in common with peace, freedom and liberty. It is like trying to teach a cat not to attack birds. Our only true allies are Israel, England, Poland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and France. We should get out of the UN and establish alliances with individual nations or maybe a small group of nations. We have nothing in common with the Muslim nations, including Iran, North Korea, China or Russia, to mention a few.
     
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    It is not a cloudy issue. We are at war whether or not Obama and the other Muslim apologists think we are or not. Any embassy, or any US facility, in a Muslim country should be guarded and run for what it is, American soil in enemy territory. Muslims are still fighting the crusades, which they started BTW, whether we want to admit that or not.

    They are not into random acts. Anyone who thinks these latest attacks were a coincidence needs a serious history lesson.
     
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    I totally disagree. We should not have an embassy in any Muslim country. It is not worth one more American life dealing with trash like this. If one of the countries gives us a problem, wipe them off the map. End of story.
     
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    What I wish is that someone would write a book documenting how many American lives have been lost to Muslims, however politically incorrect it might be. We could start with nearly 3000 lives lost on 09/11. We could continue with how many lives and limbs blown off in Iraq and Afghanistan. We could add to that all of the American lives lost at various embassies and tourist places around the world (I'm thinking of Bali, for one).

    We have had a failed foreign policy for years, during the Clinton administration, the Bush administration, and the Obama administration - including our members of Congress from both parties. Muslims are getting bolder and the fact is, our leaders are afraid of Muslims. They are afraid and so they try to appease them by throwing our tax dollars (even borrowed dollars) at the Muslim countries and contract trade agreements with them, I am thinking of Pakistan, Indonesia, and more.

    Gone are the days of Thomas Jefferson, who valiantly stood up to the Muslim Pirates (Barbary pirates) and formed our US Navy.

    We have imported thousands upon thousands of Muslims into our nation under some goofy agreement someone signed with the UN.

    If any American protests how Islam is taking over our own nation, we are accused of being bigots and religous intolerance. I have been accused of that here on this very board years ago.

    Steve Emerson, a terrorism expert, testified on Capitol Hill years before 09/11 happened what was coming, but he was ignored. You'd think after the first Trade Center attack that our leaders would have taken more precautions instead of trying to appease Muslim nations. But it doesn't happen. Everyone is afraid.

    I do not believe most Muslims are peaceful. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

    I remember people in Egypt and other Muslim countries dancing, throwing candy in the streets when 09/11 happened. Instead of condemnation by the world community at those people, a concerted endeavor was made by the Bush WH and leaders to keep at bay any anti-Muslim sentiment that might be felt in the US. Now we have the obama WH who cowtows to Muslims and bows to a Saudi King while insulting our true allies.

    American businesses have been sued by CAIR and various Muslim groups in the US (mosques in our cities, Dell Computer, and others) and our textbooks have rewritten history to put Islam in a favorable light.

    Years ago, during the Gulf War, I remember a Muslim leader going on CNN and saying that all he had to do was give the word and there would be jihad here in the US from the Muslims already here. That was thousands and thousands of Muslims ago.

    The Crusades were started by Muslims, but history is being rewritten. The Crusades actually came about because Muslims were invading lands and taking people as slaves, raping, murdering, and pillaging. The Knights of the Crusades went to defeat Islam and they did.

    Fast forward. The goal of Islam is to raise a Muslim flag touting Allah, not just over a US Embassy, but over the WH. That has been the goal for a long time. I have seen this goal on Muslim jihad sites on the web.

    Meanwhile, Muslims continue to foster jihad using US web sites and US servers and have not been shut down, even though after 09/11 I personally, working with someone across the pond, contacted our authorities to have those shut down. Little progress was made. Because of "freedom of speech."

    What our politicians and other liberals do not seem to understand is that this is not a Religion of Peace, it is a political movement cloaked in "religion." They use our Constitutional freedoms against us and it will be to our own undoing. They are here to grow in number and force Sharia on the rest of us who do not denounce Christianity and accept Islam. When there are sufficient numbers here, they will start jihad. They have already made inroads in our courts, hospitals, businesses, communities, and more. Obamacare, mark my words, is just another way to get us under Shariah (Muslim law)--Obama's big plan. He will reveal himself one day for what he truly is. Even then, people will say, "oh, what's the big deal, we have freedom of religion."

    We are foolish. Islam is an evil that cannot be pacified or bought off. Just ask those who have suffered under Islamic persecution and have escaped to freedom. Slavery? It was Arab Muslims who were largely responsible for selling of black slaves in Africa to the rest of the world. They still deal in slavery today. Sex trade, drugs, child sex slaves, and more. They have tried for a Caliphate before and this is the final Caliphate. We are foolish if we think differently.
     
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    1. We have to pray for the Muslims. Like it or not. They are our enemies.

    2. When is the last time you heard of a Christian killing a foreign ambassador when they released the movie "The Last Temptation of Christ"?

    3. Did any of us go on a killing spree when they put that awful stage play that portrayed the Lord Jesus Christ and His disciples as a bunch of h*m*s3xuals?

    4. When we aren't allowed to put Nativity scenes up on our own courthouse lawns, have any Christians hijacked planes and flown them into courthouses?

    5. When our kids were told they could not pray at school, did any Christians burn down the school and kill the administrators?

    Just asking. And these are questions you can pose to your atheist / anti-theist friends if they ever go on a "all religions are evil" rants.
     
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    Islam was peaceful from 1492 to 1947.
     
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    Why are we throwing the lives of our good people and tax dollars to these wretched places.....we seem to be fighting their battles for them.

    I suppose it allows them to continue ploting the downfall of Christianity and civilisation as we know it.
     

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