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Suddenly Bill Clinton doesnt look so bad!

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  1. Ps104_33

    Ps104_33 New Member

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    Just finished watching "Stolen Honor". My heart just went out to these former POWs. Lets see, John Kerry robbed these men of their honor and dignity. Caused their imprisonment to be prolonged and more agonizing. They were spit on upon their return. And this so-called man, who is one of the only ones to publicly confess to his war crimes, now wants to be our president. Whats even more scary is that there are people in this country who are going to try to vote this traitor into the most powerful position in the world. God help us. We need to really pray for George Bush's re-election. This could possibly be the worst mistake that was ever made by the people of this country.
     
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    Not much chance of that happening. I expect to see President Bush win by 7% nationally.
     
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    What's so bad about what Kerry did? How was he responsible for prolonging those POW's time out there?
    Dean
     
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    He accussed them of being war criminals which is exactly what their captors claimed and used against them while they were torturing them.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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  5. Ps104_33

    Ps104_33 New Member

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    Because while his fellow soldiers were suffering in VC prison camps Kerry was accusing them of atrocities they were not responsible for. He is a very evil man and will say whatever it takes to get into the White House.
     
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  6. The Galatian

    The Galatian New Member

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    And the fact is, the NVA used Nixon's praise of US troops as an excuse for torturing the POWs. And they used everything else as an excuse.

    Nothing any American said or did made any difference whatsoever. The Communist system of degrading and demoralizing prisoners is what it is, and nothing was going to change that.

    That's how it is. Anyone tells you different doesn't know what he's talking about, or is lying to you.
     
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  7. dean198

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    Thanks for clearing that up - i knew he criticed the war in Vietnam - which I think is legitimate because it was unconstitutional - I did not realise he criticised his fellow comrads - that is terrible.....does anyone know where I can get that info?
    Thanks
    Dean
     
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  8. The Galatian

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    Kerry, in Congressional hearings was one of the first to allege that atrocities were happening on a frequent basis in Vietnam.

    Later, we found out about My Lai, the Phoenix Program, and all the rest. I didn't believe him, either.

    But he was right.
     
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  9. Bethany

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    http://www.swiftvets.com/

    This is the site that the men who served with John Kerry have set up.

    Also, the book "Unfit for Command" by John O'Neill tells exactly what Kerry did in Vietnam, and more importantly, what he did after.

    John Kerry was a member of Vietnam Vets Against the War. This group was made up of left wing protesters, many of them not Vietnam Vets. They had ties to radical groups in the US, including Communist groups. Kerry alleged that his fellow vets "committed atrocities reminisent of Ghengis Khan." That is flat out UNTRUE. Please read the book and website. You will find out the truth there, not in Kerry's self-serving lies.
     
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  10. Ps104_33

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    Just go HERE and watch "Stolen

    Honor" for yourself and you tell me if these men who spent 6-8 years of their life in POW camps would lie. The fact is Kerry was a hero only to the North Vietnamese. What soldier in his right mind would bad-mouth his fellow soldiers while they were suffering in prison camps? My Lai was an isolated incident, not typical of all Viet Nam veterans. Besides, Kerry himself admitted to committing atrocities. Would that not make him an admitted war criminal?
     
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  11. The Galatian

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    Actually, the men who served with Kerry overwhelmingly support him. Some of them claim the Swifties for Smear(none of whom actually served with Kerry, but some of whom brag they got within 50 yards of him at least once) are liars.

    Some of the guys who served with that bunch claim they are lying or confused as well. So do the Navy records, and the documents of Kerry's commanders.

    O'Neill (who you may know was recruited by Nixon to get Kerry, but still claims to be "apolitical") has now admitted that he never served with Kerry.

    How about that?

    And they lied to you on "stolen honor", too. Kerry never accused the POWs of any offense at all. That's just Rove's ghostwriting for O'Neill. If you doubt it, go find an example. You won't find one.

    You're a sucker only as long as you keep letting them do this to you.
     
    #11 The Galatian, Oct 24, 2004
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    I guess one doesnt have to pick up a skunk to see if they stink.
     
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    Galatian, answer my question. Is Kerry a war criminal?
     
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    hello?
     
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  15. The Galatian

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    What crimes do you think he committed? The United States military forces in Vietnam had a number of policies that the Pentagon later concluded were in violation of the Geneva convention. They rescinded them, in part because Kerry publicly denounced them after leaving the service.

    If Kerry obeyed those policies during his tour in Vietnam would that make him and everyone else who did, a "war criminal?"

    If so, then he is. If not, then no. I'll listen to your argument. What do you think?
     
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    What crimes do you think he committed? The United States military forces in Vietnam had a number of policies that the Pentagon later concluded were in violation of the Geneva convention. They rescinded them, in part because Kerry publicly denounced them after leaving the service.

    If Kerry obeyed those policies during his tour in Vietnam would that make him and everyone else who did, a "war criminal?"

    If so, then he is. If not, then no. I'll listen to your argument. What do you think?

    Hello?
     
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  17. The Galatian

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    Ur... hello?
     
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    Didnt he say that he personally witnessed and took part in "the razing of villages, the cutting of of heads and ears, the raping of women and children, etc." About the same things Lt. Calley was guilty of? So are you saying that every Viet Nam veteren is a war criminal?
     
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  19. The Galatian

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    Um, no, I don't think he did say that. But I would be interested in seeing the source that convinced you he did.

    I don't remember him saying every Vietnam veteran was a war criminal, either. Do you have a source for that?

    And you still haven't answered my question. Do you think Kerry and others following military orders that the Pentagon later concluded were contrary to the Geneva Convention were "war criminals?"
     
    #19 The Galatian, Oct 24, 2004
  20. dianetavegia

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    Suddenly Bill Clinton doesnt look so bad! [​IMG]
     
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