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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salamander, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. Fundamentalist1611

    Fundamentalist1611 New Member

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    Joshua,

    That's NOT youth ministry, that's youth ENTERTAINMENT

    I'm all for activities but that's not leaving us a good impression on MINISTERIAL work.

    Then again, this board is infested with "feel goodism" and "purpose driven commercialism"

    Old Fashioned Bible Christianity is most definitely in the minority.

    And for those that will attack me for posting this,

    Don't you dare state that you love the old time Preachers and Servants of God because you mock and critcize those today with their same zeal.

    Off to the gym

    Regards,
     
  2. Salamander

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    OK, I'm down now, but will you mind telling me who made you the edit god? You knew exactly what I said, but due top your immaturity you turned and tried to rend me.

    If you REVIEWED your post I responded to, then you would also see how easily anyone should assume yall were too busy watching the game the youth were bored with is why they went outside to play instead of tolerating something only sports worshippers do.

    Ok, I apologise. Now you and pmsbc should also appologise to your youth groups for fence straddling with the world.

    I only responded to the lack of information provided by the post, if you want to turn my response into an attack, then be my guest, but it was admonition to the effect that it clearly was stated that the kids were left to themselves unsupervised, for that I need not apologise.
     
  3. Salamander

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    Learn to stand in the gap, not just fill up the gap.
     
  4. Gib

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    Sal, have you got everything out of this thread you were hoping for [​IMG]
     
  5. Salamander

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    Thank You, Brother, for a true fundementalist's stand in these evil days!

    [Attack snipped - warning to Salamander: You call others "names" and you will find yourself on a list of those unable to post.] I can gather a group too, but I am only interested in BUILDING lives, not looking for ways to back up and comprimise to bring a group in.

    Jesus didn't "honour" the crowds, but He did love them by preaching to them and just as He, I see them as sheep having not a shepherd.

    The Lord has used me in SPITE of myself to bring around a handful of "desparate teens" to let them know no matter what their homes are like, they can live for God!

    Out of 30-50, and 20 are not consistent, we have 12 young people in our group that love the Lord and show a zeal to want what they don't have elsewhere in the many other churches they have been too much like some represented in this very thread.

    They got tired of all the "entertainment", found out what Spirit-filled, Old Fashioned Baptists are really like and THEY WANT MORE OF THE SAME!!!!!! :D

    [ February 11, 2006, 04:11 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]
     
  6. Salamander

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    Wasn't really looking for what you might insist upon, but was expecting some to consider Him who endured the Cross despising the shame and the contradiction made by sinners.

    I am an Atlanta Falcons fan, but I hate to try and watch the games on TV becuase of all the garbage one has to sift through just to watch.

    I don't waste my money on cable and I don't have "TIVO" or "TIBO" whatever it is called.

    I have what is called a monitor, we check out movies from the library and have a great time watching most of what we get. Some we just put back in the box and tell our Methodist, yet Christian, librarian about the content when it is offensive to Christians and she promptly places them in the section where they belong with all the other trashy media, out of the "reach" of the youth! :eek:
     
  7. Salamander

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    Dr. Bob,What name? You at least owe me to tell me what name I called anyone?
     
  8. Salamander

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    I think you're making a perverted judgement here, friend, I am not self-righteous at all. It may be that one who is so far away from the expected result of the conforming to the image of Christ that one who endeavors to strive for pefection that I am "self-righteous", but then that person would have to blame the Lord for separation, and I don't think any self-observing Christian would want to do that from a spiritual standpoint.
     
  9. Joshua Rhodes

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    My last post on the subject:

    Don't assume by knowing about one event in our youth ministry that you can judge everything that goes on in that ministry. I see nothing wrong with a fun night and entertainment, because these youth have Bible Study on Monday nights and Wednesday nights and are greatly involved in both. Bash me and my methods. Fine. I apologise for the reaction of my last post. But I do not, DO NOT, apologise for allowing my students to have fun and fellowship with one another in a safe and Christian environment. I will not respond to this thread again.

    In His Grip,
    joshua
     
  10. Brice

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    I think you're making a perverted judgement here, friend, I am not self-righteous at all. It may be that one who is so far away from the expected result of the conforming to the image of Christ that one who endeavors to strive for pefection that I am "self-righteous", but then that person would have to blame the Lord for separation, and I don't think any self-observing Christian would want to do that from a spiritual standpoint. </font>[/QUOTE]I had a feeling we couldn’t let convictions be convictions. I think Maxdeaf’s point is well taken. If you are as into separation as you present yourself to be, you sure wouldn’t be hanging around these parts (with all of us superbowl watching, MV reading, CCM listening Baptists). No one has disagreed with your PERSONAL conviction to abstain from the superbowl, I personally abstain from many things that many other Christians participate in. The fact is that we need to follow Gods leading in our lives, but in certain situations we need to differentiate between Gods command for all and Gods command for our own lives. If we were to apply your feelings about the Superbowl, to everyday life, you would consistently be disobeying your own convictions. Separation to the extent that you apply it in this situation would require never going to Target, Wal-mart, the mall, groceries store, basically anywhere outside of your own house (and that is without a TV). We obviously need to be careful in all aspects of life, but I think the Apostle Paul gave freedom in his writings because he realized that human depravity creates consistent dichotomies, some of which are not easily solvable and applicable to all in the Body of Christ.
     
  11. Dr. Bob

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    You want it public? Okay. You called godly men who are ministering for their Lord "Mocker" and "Liberal".

    Okay? Hope that answers your question. I would have thought a private message might have been better.

    When someone starts "name-calling" on a thread, I take an "open shot across-the-bow" to let them (and all those reading) know this will not be tolerated.

    [ February 11, 2006, 08:21 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]
     
  12. TaterTot

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    SALAMANDER SAYS "Ok, I apologise. Now you and pmsbc should also appologise to your youth groups for fence straddling with the world."
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    So are you saying that you just made a typo when you called him "pmsbc"? I highly doubt it. Talk about fence straddling with the world. This is ridiculous.
     
  13. Mexdeaf

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    Salamander,

    Someday perhaps you will learn that worldliness is not an act but an ATTITUDE. You need to check yours- I think a humble self-examination will reveal some things to you.
     
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    How gracious of you to accept a Methodist as a brother or sister in Christ. [​IMG]
     
  15. William Wallace

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    Good point. College ball is much more interesting. The combined age of the rolling stones is older than the U.S. Let's kick the Torries out!
     
  16. whatever

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    The guys in our Sunday School class got together for the game. We met after church at our teacher's house. He has a big-screen TV and Tivo. We were able to watch every play, and replay the plays worth watching again, and skip the commercials and the halftime show, and we ended up only a couple of minutes behind the live broadcast. Basically we had an excellent God-honoring evening service (where I didn't think once about what was happening in the SB) and a good time of food and fellowship after church with my brothers (and a Steelers win).

    I guess my point is that it is absolutely possible to watch the Super Bowl to the glory of God. I've been the finger-wagging self-righteous "how can they put football over Christ" type in the past, but I pray that by God's grace I will not ever be that way again.
     
  17. Tony kelly

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    As far as watching the cheerleaders .The Steelers never had and according to the owners never will have cheerleaders !
     
  18. Salamander

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    Thank You, Brother, for a true fundementalist's stand in these evil days!

    [Attack snipped - warning to Salamander: You call others "names" and you will find yourself on a list of those unable to post.] I can gather a group too, but I am only interested in BUILDING lives, not looking for ways to back up and comprimise to bring a group in.

    Jesus didn't "honour" the crowds, but He did love them by preaching to them and just as He, I see them as sheep having not a shepherd.

    The Lord has used me in SPITE of myself to bring around a handful of "desparate teens" to let them know no matter what their homes are like, they can live for God!

    Out of 30-50, and 20 are not consistent, we have 12 young people in our group that love the Lord and show a zeal to want what they don't have elsewhere in the many other churches they have been too much like some represented in this very thread.

    They got tired of all the "entertainment", found out what Spirit-filled, Old Fashioned Baptists are really like and THEY WANT MORE OF THE SAME!!!!!! :D
    </font>[/QUOTE]I appologise for the remarks that were "snipped" and evaluated as any type of being directed to anyone personally. My words were only to allow anyone to examine themselves as commanded by our Lordas to judge ourselves.

    I know already that many will not look at this as an appology, but that would then deny me the chance to explain.

    I have observed the "right" by others, to call Christians many names: "legalists, self-righteous,pharisse,and etc, etc."

    Jesus said it best, "Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free"

    How is it then we are to deduce the truth? It is only found by the opportunity to be confronted by those with whom we disagree as to examine oursleves as to judge ourselves that we would not be judged.

    That was my ONLY intention, but instead, my words were taken and turned against me in an effort to have me removed from BB.

    I have seen a few that want me to leave as if I desire ot be "separate" from "them". Ash JohnV, if he will tell you our exchanges may have been heated, we both have reached a level of agreement. I have expressed that I can and will have fellowship with even him! ;) And if I can fellowship with him, I can almost fellowshi[p with any of you!

    So tell me, before the big, bad wolf "eats me", do you want me to leave?
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  19. PastorSBC1303

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    Salamander,

    Your apology is accepted here. I apologize if I said anything wrong to you as well.

    I do not want you to leave the board. You have as much right to be here as any of us.

    Guess we just got to work harder at getting along.

    God bless. [​IMG]
     
  20. Salamander

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    And I never did make any rash judgement, I only responded to the very one example you provided.

    If you choose to not respond to this thread again, it might be to your advantage to respond.

    I have told you, and I mean it, we can have fellowship, but this IS a debate forum. If only those who disagree with me are allowed to respond in the same fashion I have responded, then that, my friend, is censorship and not open debate with the fair exchange of ideas as the premise for BB declares and would then be false advertising.

    I came to this board by recommendation of the people I currently live with.

    I fully believe in activities to bring youth together! We're headed up to Scaly Mountain, N.C. for snow tubing real soon! You should consider taking your youth to this place!

    We award the efforts of our youth with many things, this year alone we're taking them there instead of the Youth Valentine's Banquet.

    I personally give those who have their memory verse with different things, this last Sunday, yesterday, thye got a 1 lb, solid chocolate bunny rabbit! Though i expressed we don't do the "bunny rabbit thing", they still got the reward!
     
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