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Support the Troops by Ending the War

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Feb 1, 2007.

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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it was a fight for survival. Both Japan and Germany had nuclear weapons programs and were working on the ability to deliver them to the mainland USA. If the war had not ended in 1945, I shudder to think what might have happened in 1946-47.
     
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    In 1934, we had no ability to invade anyone. But by the early 1940s, we were well on the way. Yes, the Axis had long-term plans for the invasion of the United States.

    Hitler's rocket people even had plans for a V3 capable if it had been built, of crossing the Atlantic and striking New York. Years ago, I saw some documents on the targeting. Apparently, they had planned to zero in on the Bowrey.

    Make no mistake about it. We were next. That war was a battle for survival.
     
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    No it wasn't .

    It was a fight for the survival for lots of nations, but not the USA.

    Much like today, it was a fight to keep it from becoming a war of survival.
     
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    Just like today?.

    It was a fight to keep it from becoming a fight for survival.
     
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    Yes, it was.
     
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    It was a fight for survival. Read the history.
     
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    Carpro, Ladyeagle opened a thread about your assurtion concerning WWII. If you are so sure of yourself, step up to the plate!
     
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    I have. We were never threatened with imminent invasion.

    We are in much more danger today than we were prior to our entry into WWII. Our enemies have nuclear weapons programs and will use them when they get the chance. Yet we do nothing but sit and wait.
     
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    And the danger will never end unless we totally annihilate our percieved enemies. Our enemies are not so foolish as to think that they will not be obliterated once they have made the decision to fire the first missle. To rid ourselves of the nuclear threat we must agree that all nations will not utilize a nuclear weapon, that will never happen if one nation has one then other nations will pursue to have them as well. We have gone into Iraq and have not left despite having accomplished the realistic victories.
     
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    1) I guess you weren't concerned with the efforts to build a long range bomber and develop nuclear weapons by the Axis powers during World War II. I'm glad you weren't running things back then. If you had been then we would be worshipping the Japanese emperor today or having to say "Heil Hitler".

    2) Which ones?
     
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    Amazing, just amazing. Carpro, take Lady Eagle's advice, and peddle that one to the history board. That would be interesting.
     
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    The difference I see is with the citizens. Many of them just don't seem to have what it takes.

    I do okay with history but I wouldn't mind taking some courses again some day before I become history.
     
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    I agree regarding the "... necessary to enter the war to keep it from becoming a war of survival."
     
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    That came later in the war and we pre-empted that capability.
     
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    In 1941, nuclear weapons were an untested theory. Are you saying FDR went to war based on a theoretical weapon? As it turns out, Germany and Japan did get close to producing nukes of their own, but we only confirmed that after they were defeated.
     
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    Correct! Then we used their talents to accelerate development of our own.
     
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    No, we declared war because we were attacked at Pearl Harbor.

    By the way, there is pretty good evidence that Japan tested a nuclear weapon near Korea just before the war ended.
     
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    That is correct. But Hitler could have been pushing nuclear weapon development for years but he didn't. I thank God that he did not do so.
     
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    Yes we did. And the whole Mutual Assured Destruction scenario kept us safe for many years. Unfortunately, we now have to deal with people who don't care if they will be destroyed by a nuke.
     
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    Alright, but you can't say we entered into a war for survival based on the threat of nuclear destruction, because that wasn't even in the picture in 1941. The argument could have been made at the time that they were no threat to us at all, and we could have ignored them. Just as some say today that the Jihadis and the 12th Imam acolytes aren't really a threat to us.
     
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