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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Oldtimer, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. Yeshua1

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    well , he already did give to us the perfect "bible', it was called the originals!
     
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    I will say this......your hypothetical is exposing more than we might realize. except for some rather poignant responses earlier, the KJV-detractors simply REFUSE to answer your question. I find it quite telling that there are many on this thread who simply refuse to answer an obvious hypothetical. That tells me a LOT about where they are coming from. :wavey:
     
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    A hypothetical is fiction. Reality is nonfiction. I live in reality. The KJVO stance is in a world of their own making. It is not a God-ordained world.
     
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    I know....the purpose, however, of posing a hypothetical is to pose or force a particular answer to an idea which is inherently relevant to the LARGER issue at hand.

    You are CLEARLY avoiding answering the hypothetical.....

    Anyone who poses a hypothetical KNOWS that it's a hypothetical....but you can't (or won't) answer the hypothetical.....
    There is ALWAYS a reason someone refuses to acknowledge said hypothetical.

    You are refusing, and it tells us a lot about your intents and your true beliefs.

    Solid positions which are reasonably held, can usually respond to relevant (if implausible) hypotheticals....your position can't apparently, and it tells us what we need to know.
     
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    How astute of you.
    Ah,maybe because they are untrue,never has nor will happen; in short an escape from reality. God hasn't done what the hypothetical envisions. It's a wasted effort. It's about as useful as asking if there is a rock so large that even God can't pick it up.

    You got that right.
     
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    Here's your answer, from the Bible:

    1 Cor. 1:18-25-

    For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 19 For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
    and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.”

    20 Where is the one who is wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. 22 For Jews demand signs and Greeks seek wisdom, 23 but we preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, 24 but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
     
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    That's part of the premise of this thread. EVERY verse in EVERY English Bible ever printed is either option 1 or option 2. There is no 3rd option.

    Bringing in a 3rd option is simply another way to avoid answering the question.

    What would happen?
     
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    From Alister McGrath's book --"In The Beginning."

    "The 'new translation' --as the King James bible was still termed even late in the seventeenth century --was still regarded with some misgivings at the opening of the eighteenth. Yet it was during this century that a decisive change in attitude toward the 'new' translation developed. It is virtually impossible to point to any defining moment or event that crystallized the perception that this was indeed a great work of religious literature;but at some time during this century, perhaps around 1750, such a perception settled over the work, and would remain in place until the end of the First World War. If the first 150 years of its history were encumbered with hints of discontent,criticism, and suspicion, its next 150 years were characterized by something at times approaching uncritical adulation." (289,290)
     
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    The present twenty to thirty or more varying KJV editions with a number of differences with each other are not the same. Some present KJV edition printed since the 1980's from a computer based text have a whole new set of differences.

    The present KJV editions [besides 1611 reprints] are not the same as the 1611 edition.

    The 1611 edition of the KJV has hundreds and thousands of differences when compared to the pre-1611 English Bibles of which it is a revision.

    The KJV is not the same as any one edition of the original language OT text or any one edition of the original language NT text available to the KJV translators.
     
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