Sure . . . unsure

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  1. bb_baptist

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    "Although researchers aren't sure why, a new study suggests that congregations headed by seminary-trained pastors are "far more likely" to lack a clear sense of purpose and to "feel threatened by changes in worship".

    Source: Washington Post National Weekly Edition
     
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    I'd be curious to see the actual questions they asked and the context in which they asked them.

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    I agree with Joshua. (GASP! DID I JUST SAY THAT) :D

    In all seriousness, I'd like to see the link to the research, because I've seen Barna research that suggests just the opposite.
     
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    I have a hard time believing this, because I have found it to be the other way around, in my personal experience. . .. .
     
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    Quick honey, save Tom's post before someone deletes it...

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  6. Silver Wolf

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    My pastor has talk about a study like that. He told me the story about it when I told him that I had a calling on my life. I could get the full story from him and give it to you guys if you like.
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SilverWolf: My pastor has talk about a study like that. He told me the story about it when I told him that I had a calling on my life. I could get the full story from him and give it to you guys if you like. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yes Please do that Joshua. I'd like to read it. I find it very hard to believe.

    [ September 21, 2001: Message edited by: Barnabas ]
     
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    :mad: BJ HELP! I'm never going to figure this stinkin' quote thing out! :D

    Paula
     
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    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by livin'intheword: :mad: BJ HELP! I'm never going to figure this stinkin' quote thing out! :D Paula<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Help is on the way Paula! I have sent you an email. [​IMG]
     
  10. Revelator

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    I think sometimes we esteem seminary led pastors too much. I know that if a pastor goes to seminary he learns alot more about the scripture. (I plan to quit college and go to seminary)But on the other hand I believe some of the pastors that graduater from seminary are too cocky too arrogant and in some cases to self righteous to lean on God. (I am of course not talkin about anyone on the board as I don't know any of you personally, so if this bothers you you may need to examine your life)A bible believing church with a pastor that has never been to seminary that acts on their belief will do just as good if not better than a church that is just wanting a seminary "cultured" pastor. Sometimes its not even the pastors fault it is the fault of the congregation. A congregation thet is unreceptive to the will of God will not prosper with a good pastor or not. Just think about this stuff
    As for change in worship well thats any church especially in the south.
     
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    Seminary will do two things for you. It will add some years so you will not be a "novice" like you are when you finish Bible College and still think you "know it all".

    It will also reinforce proper theology so your messages will be grounded in the Word - the Greek and Hebrew - rather than trusting someone's translation that may/may not be accurate or unbiased.

    There are very few seminary trained men who would want to be associated with the KJVonly movement, for instance.
     
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    I belive that I will enjoy seminary, but I just hope that I don't loose sight of what is biblical and what is not. I know that not all seminary professors are going to believe what I believe,and I ask for prayers that I can sort through it all in the WORD and not in My head. I covet the prayers of righteous men [​IMG]
     
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    Just remember that learning involves change. If you don't intend to change anything, there is no point in going to seminary.

    One of my seminary professors stated (only partly tongue-in-cheek) that he wished that the seminary would grant a degree to each student as soon as they were accepted, and then invite any who wished to learn something to stay around.

    Oh, and don't be afraid of your head. God gave it to you. Use it.

    <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by
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    I belive that I will enjoy seminary, but I just hope that I don't loose sight of what is biblical and what is not. I know that not all seminary professors are going to believe what I believe,and I ask for prayers that I can sort through it all in the WORD and not in My head. I covet the prayers of righteous men [​IMG]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
     
  14. Revelator

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    If you lived in my head for a week you would be afraid of it too :D

    My father and I had this same discussion,and he mentioned it too. Its not that I am afraid to use my head I just don't want to over intellectualize the Bible, that has caused more problems than I can count. God made that Bible so a man could pick it up regardless of his education and read it and understand it.
     
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    There are very few seminary trained men who would want to be associated with the KJVonly movement, for instance.

    Bob, I understand this is mere opinion on your behalf, for there is no way to know the truth to this statement. Other than your own circle of the world, how could you know? Let me ask you something, what is your personal experience with what you term, and many others on this board, "KJVonlyism"? What has caused your obvious distaste for those settled on KJV?

    I've seen people on both sides of the KJV stance jump into the fray, and what bothers me more than anything is how eager we all can be to give our "opinions". If anyone of us was to fellowship with true "christians and ministers of God", bible version, quite honestly, should be one of the lesser things that concerns us. If someone is acting unchristian, KJV or otherwise, seek out others to fellowship with.

    I know several "KJVonly" individuals I wouldn't spit on if they were on fire; know some others I'd do the same way. The reason is because I feel I'd be getting in the way of God's judgment on their lives.

    To answer the response of what was originally asked on this post, if God truly leads a man to a church, the least of the churches worries should be his seminary training, unless you are convinced the seminary he attended is anti-God: in any way.

    It has been my experience that some churches appropriate seminary training with Godly wisdom, when anyone who is honest will admit, couldn't be further from the truth. If a church is seeking the right man to fill the shepherd's post, hopefully the ones in charge of securing candidates will be following the will of the Lord, and parties involoved will be earnestly praying. If not, it wouldn't matter who filled the post.

    Spam {Paul}
     
  16. Revelator

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    Amen Spam,

    The Will of God is what matters. A seminary led pastor will about amount to a hill of beans if God does not want him somplace he and he goes there anyway.

    On to KJV, I belive that it is the one true word of God. Sure we may not have hit all the books but I believe what is there is what he wanted us to have.
     

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