Surge to Nowhere.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Ivon Denosovich, Jan 22, 2008.

  1. Ivon Denosovich

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    Here, Boston University prof Andrew Bacevich notes:

    And...

    (Cool fonts mine.) Evidently, people-not-killing-each-other (while certainly essential) does not in and of itself a functioning society make. In other words, breathing en masse is only a sign of progress by the most base and crude of standards.

     
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    :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:
     
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    There is still three trillion dollars missing from the Pentagon.

    I'm the only one that talks about it. EVER!

    Sleeping sheople couldn't care less how much crime, corruption and incompetence there is in our government run by gangsters Ivon. Unless they are the "other parties" gangsters. Then and only then will they get all wild eyed and "concerned".

    If they are "our gangsters" who look like they're the ones running the show then everything is just hunky dory. It's stinkin thinkin squared and it has cost us all. It may cost all our sovereignty and liberty.
     
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  4. Ivon Denosovich

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    poncho, I've never heard this before. Could I see a link?
     
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    Are you serious? You haven't heard that Donald Rumsfeld admitted on September 10, 2001 that the Pentagon had "lost track" of $2.3 trillion dollars?

    Google pentagon missing trillions or just click the blue words.

    Nary a blip on the mainstream medias radar. Government response "Oopsies we need more funding power and control". Sleeping Sheople's reply. Okay boss no problem as long as your "our gangsters".

    The amount has now risen to three trillion dollars un accounted for.
     
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    Wow! Thanks for the link, poncho. This is infuriating!!! Someone should be tried for this. :mad:
     
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    When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush.
    He answered by saying, 'Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.

    It became very quiet in the room.

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    Then there was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?'



    A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck.. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?'



    Once again, dead silence.

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    A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S. , English, Canadian, Australian and French navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of officers that included personnel from most of those countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks but a French admiral suddenly complained that, 'whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English.' He then asked, 'Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?'



    Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied 'Maybe it's because the Brits, Canadians, Aussies and Americans arranged it so you wouldn't have to speak German.'



    You could have heard a pin drop

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    AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE



    A group of Americans, retired teachers, recently went to France on a tour. Robert Whiting, an elderly gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane.



    At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on. "You have been to France before, monsieur?" the customs officer asked sarcastically.



    Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.



    "Then you should know enough to have your passport ready."



    The American said, "The last time I was here, I didn't have to show it."



    "Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France !"



    The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained. "Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in '44 to help liberate this country, I couldn't find any Frenchmen to show it to."

    Something for the anti Americans /democrats on here.
     
  8. Ivon Denosovich

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    I don't agree with the politics of Dagwood, Magnetic Poles, or others but calling them anti-American is offensive.
     
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    If we added up the trillions missing, the billions wasted, the millions that disappeared (363.000.000 in cash in Iraq) throw in a couple trillion for our recent undeclared war costs and it starts to add up. But no one is ever held accountable.
     
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    Bacevich has a huge axe to grind over the Iraq War.

    His phrasing and overall tenor drip with hatred.

    Tends to mitigate any legitimate points he might have had. Instead his article is just ignorable and forgettable.
     
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    You just don't like what he says. :laugh:
     
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    Nice!:thumbs:
     
  13. Ivon Denosovich

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    The author is either correct or incorrect. When he alleges the flow of oil and electrity are still below pre-invasion levels he's correct. That assessment is factual.
     
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    A word posted by Revmitchell in this thread!?!

    ::faints::
     
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    So what?

    That won't bring back his son.
     
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    Hey, no 9/11's since 9/11. Bush is doing something right.
     
  17. Ivon Denosovich

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    So what, as in, so what he's correct about the flow of oil and electricity being below pre-invasion levels?
     
  18. Ivon Denosovich

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    Bush has done many things right. But there's something called objectivity that dictates mistakes be noted as well. The article in the OP is about what isn't going right. Most GOP frontrunners concede the war has been mismanaged: this really isn't debatable.
     
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    FWIW, I supported the invasion of Iraq and do not fault Bush for going to war. It's the mistakes after the war began that give me alarm.
     
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    True. Ivon for presisdent!! :laugh:
    I just wanted to contribute to the objectivity, that's all. :type:
     

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