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Descrimination? I think it was a matter of picking off the weaker person. Now, don't get me wrong, Dan is very much more likable. Unfortunately, he didn't seem to be very bright. He caused by his own mistakes some of the challenges to be lost. And I guess in the game that is more of a liability than being obnoxious. The thing I didn't understand, and felt a little sick about is that the guy who was born and raised in Hong Kong, who Dan felt he had the most connection with because of their being able to converse in Chinese, voted against him too. But then I'm particularly sickened by betrayal and deceipt.

When all is said and done, I wonder if these people will stand by their actions. They don't seem to have any moral compass. I don't see how they sleep at night frankly. I mean it's only a game, why throw out one's integrity over a game? Or maybe I'm giving them credit for a character trait that they have yet to show they have.

 

A very good show to reveal the true nature of man; greed, laciviousness, lust, lying, cheating, betrayal, etc. Yep, very nice show, need more of them.

Wonder if all those "Christians" who watch this filth spend as much tme in the Word of God as they do watching? Or are these the same group of people that flips out if the pastor's message isn't finished at twelve noon. Or the ones wjho have to stay home from church because they may miss the Super Bowl. Yep, lot of committment to God here.

One last thing. Would you invite Jesus to sit on the couch next to you and watch this garbage? Or would he deal with you as he did with the samaritan woman in John 4?

 

ouch.

 

Dr. Bob,
That was a pretty strong remark you made toward Texas and Texans. As if to assume that because they are from Texas they will be dumb and slow? I am married to a texan and I resent your remark.

To all,
I took a gander at the last episode of Survivor and I couldn't believe my eyes. The girls washing naked. Why did they think it was nessesary to show that... I know, I know.. ratings. I wonder, if the men had won the challenge would they have been shown washing? I think not. It's only the women who are to be exploited. I think it was sick and christians should not be watching that. I know I will not. But it also is a darn shame that christian men will watch it with tongues wagging! SHAME ON YOU!
LAuraB

 

Are they really being exploited, though? They know they have cameras on them, and they chose to bathe nude (or mostly nude, anyway). They're the ones planning on exploiting the men, if you believe what some of them said about going topless after the merge in order to keep the men off guard.

Betty, I remember the "hour or two" comment, too! I couldn't believe it, all those men talking about how long they were fishing, like two hours of fishing is a big deal. When I fish, I fish for two hours at a minimum! It just flies by, too. Last time I went, I think we caught all of three fish in the first two hours.

 

That was a stinging thing to say , Ernie. I appreciate you having a very negative opinion of a T.V. show. That's easily fixed with the flip of a switch. But do you think you could try to show a little fruits of the spirit when voicing your opinions about how you see your brothers and sisters in Christ?

To answer your question; I don't have to invite Jesus to sit on my couch to watch T.V Proverbs 15:3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. You can't hide anthing from someone who knows more about you than you do.

Laurenda

[ March 04, 2003, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: Laurenda ]

 

I happen to agree 100% with Ernie. And even though this may be a light topic and could be easily solved with the flip of a switch as you say, but in reality it really is more than just a flip of the switch. TV has gone haywire and has no morals. Take for instance the Victoria Secret commercial. Thats one step away from Pornography, the ladies on there showing all that skin and in sexual poses. Flip of the switch doesn't work on that one. Seems like they all run at the same time on every station. I flip the switch only to find the same exact commercial.
It makes me sick the way TV has turned out these days.
Ladies should be modestly dressed not naked or half naked. Wearing a bra and underwear to me is nakedness, it is to be worn UNDER clothes. Why can't they show the garment by it's self with no one wearing it.
Because they want the women to believe if they buy this product we will all be like the women on TV. I pride myself alot more than the women on TV.
So even though this thread may be a light subject I think we (as a whole) take things a little to lightly these days and people are loosing perspective on right and wrong and maybe if they did put their noses in the bible and dedicate the time they dedicate to watching *&(& on TV, well... you all know where I am going with this. Need I say more?

But, "Right On" Ernie....

 

Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God. Luke 16:15

Doesn't the Bible also say? Only by pride cometh contention; but with the well advised is wisdom. Prov. 13:10 and He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city. Prov. 16:32 and Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles. Proud and haughty scorner is his name, who dealeth in proud wrath. Prov. 23:24

I am reminded of something that Jim1999 said , Perhaps we should take a doctors oath on the B.B. and "do no harm".

While I would tend to agree that some Christians might think this T.V. show might cause them to stumble, I do not agree that anyone has the right to make that call for another person.

I have much more respect for those who can adhere to what they believe without resorting to this type of finger pointing.

Charlotte

[ March 04, 2003, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: Charlotte Marcel ]

 

Laura, I agree that Television has gone too far. It's a sign of the end times if you ask me. But nobody is holding a gun to your head making you watch it. You can still flick your switch to off. How about getting rid of your television all together? I know many Christians who have done that. I also know many Christians who don't have computers like we do for the same reason. Because they are of the world and can be a stumbling block to a weaker Christians walk. If something is a stumbling block to your walk with Christ, then don't put yourself in that possition. No one would fault you for making that decision for yourself or your family.

I don't have a problem with people liking or not liking a television show. I honestly don't really care.

I do have a problem when someone thinks that as a Christian, they can intentionally hurt people with what they say as if it was their God given right. That is wrong. The Bible says it's wrong. You can continue to do it, you have free will, but the Bible says not to. Think it doesn't? Proverbs is a good book to start with.

If I don't see the fruits of your spirit , I might wonder about your walk too. But it's not my place to judge you is it? I don't know the whole matter do I? Who does then? God? Then maybe it's God's authority to judge others, not yours or mine.

Laurenda

 

As I have already stated, I like watching this show (our pastor's wife watches it too )

I can't leave before the pastor completes his message at 12,( actually he finishes about 12:20) because I have to play the postlude.

And SuperBowl...What's a super bowl?

Never missed a service because of the SuperBowl, but now if the Sooners were playing, we just might have to have a TV at church?

I think that Dan's friend from Hong Kong voted against him because of the remarks that Dan made in tribal council. Did you see the look on his face? I don't know his name. I haven't learned all the names, yet.


Oh, I forgot to address the time I spend in the word of God. I'm really not sure, but more time than I spend watching Survivor and praying, I pray all the time.

 

I can safely say that my time with God is not compromised by my watching Survivor, or any program, for that matter.

 

Betty and Kelly, you two are so much nicer than I am. I should have just answered the questions. I guess I was upset at the tone in which they were asked.

I read my Bible about an hour a day, not including keeping it near me when I'm on the computer and using it to quote scripture where aplicable, I pray like a dripping faucet...or without ceasing like the Bible says. I Thes 5:17. And I probably watch T.V. at the end of a hard day maybe a total of 3 hours a week. My brain can't handle Bible study at night. Much better in the morning. (remember I have 3 small children)

Does a T.V. show make me stumble in my faith?...No, my faith is alot stronger than that.

Do Christians who are contentious cause me to stumble?...sometimes, quite honestly I think this duplicity is more of a stumbling block to me than anything else that I have to deal with. This is where my spiritual weakness is. Whenever anyone posts uncharitably I find it very upsetting.

Being around people who show their godliness like Betty and Kelly however (to name a few) has the opposite effect of inspiring me to try to be more like the Bible tells me to be. Thank you ladies by being a godly example.

My church never lets out by 12:00 noon... I leave my house at 7:45 am and get back around 1:30...only to have to leave for the evening service at 4:00...to get home around 8:30 or so. And that's just Sunday. The only grumbling I do about not getting out by noon is done by my empty stomach.

editted to add: I answered your questions out of politeness, although the tone in which you asked these questions does not deserve that kind of courtesy. I hope you will try to be a little nicer in the future. Thank you.

Laurenda

[ March 05, 2003, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: Laurenda ]

 

Laurenda,
I was not judging anyone. But I sure do think that DR. was judging Texans. It is not my place to judge anyone. To each is own, they will have to answer for what they do, but I can view my points on things just as everyone here does.

I have seen some stinging comments made in these forums and they were cruel and one would assume they were intentional to hurt the recipient. I am not out to do that, and reading over my own post I do not believe I have said anything out of line. Emotions can not be viewed through words on a screen. So no one really knows the tone of which I was saying what I did. But I don't think I should have to give up my personal enjoyments just to taylor to societies needs. I don't let anything get in my way with my walk with Christ. And I don't claim to be perfect either. I have alot of learning still ahead of me in my walk. But I will express my views on what I believe to be important. And something important to me is the was christian men conduct themselves..

If you go back to the first page of this thread you can see them talking about Heidi, and oh what a site to look at, but it's really the scenery they were interested in. Yea, uh huh! But still I am not judging, only they will have to answer for themselves.

You can question my christianity all you want Lorenda, go ahead! Like I said before I am not perfect, but I try to be a good christian, and I don't have to answer to you, just God. So if we are not suppose to express our views then why are the posts even here?

Now, If I took anything you said out of context (can't see emotions in words on a screen) Then just maybe you also did mine.

LauraB

 

Laura this is the only thing I said to you:

I realize that the tone of my post is perhaps a little too sarcastic. I appologize for that, it's just my way. But I think your response is a little disproportionate. Where did I say that you aren't a Christian?

Laurenda

editted for clarity.

[ March 05, 2003, 03:21 AM: Message edited by: Laurenda ]

 

She actually thought you were serious? She don't know you too well...do she?

Laura, Dr. Bob is one of the nicest albeit most sarcastic and humourous people here. When he ribbs someone, they usually know he is ribbing them. He's one of the good guys.

Laurenda

 

How sad to see "Christians" defending sin.

The Israelites did the same thing when Moses came down off the mountain and saw them worshipping the golden calf. (Exodus 32)

Sin is sin and God hates it, our problem today is we want to enjoy fleshly lusts so we sugar coat them.

Naked women on tv, and the showing of skin is nakedness even if they have strips if cloth covering their private parts, it is nakedness, and God hates it.

Praying always, wow! even when indulging in sin? Save your breath, God isn't there. In the garden Adam and Eve hid from God because they were ashamed of their sin; today Christians flaunt their sin in God's face.
Indulge in this filth that is your business, but there is no way you are not going to be adversly affected by it.

My attempt is to help you see how far you have drifted from a holy and righteous God. Liberty in Christ is not liberty in sin but liberty from sin.....What di Jesus often say "Go and sin no more" Shouldn't we listen to the one who took our sins upon himself? Or are we going to keep heping on sin after sin?

Oh my, I have probaly offended someone by using that nasty word SIN Well Jesus used it so it must be okay.

Do you actually think that it is okay to indulge in sin while it is so hated by God that he sent his only as a sacrifice for sin?

Wake up people, God is a holy and righteous God and he wants holy and righeous people.

No, I am not prefect and struggle daily with my flesh, but when am confronted with my sin I am greatful, not defensive.

 

Actually, we were defending ourselves from the accusation inherent in your statement, "Wonder if all those "Christians" who watch this filth spend as much tme in the Word of God as they do watching? Or are these the same group of people that flips out if the pastor's message isn't finished at twelve noon. Or the ones wjho have to stay home from church because they may miss the Super Bowl. Yep, lot of committment to God here." Hardly defending sin.

But that said, I don't consider watching a program like "Survivor" sinful. So perhaps that's where we disagree.

Still, your statement above makes many assumptions, including the assumption that those of us who admit to watching this particular show aren't Christian (implied by your use of quote marks around the word), which is not a judgement appropriate for you, sir, to make.

 

You have gone too far. You must stop this.

God is there. My prayers get answers. My faith is strong enough to even withstand your abusive tirade. I am more concerned about you. What could possibly make a Christian act this way? I'm praying for you Ernie. I hope that God will take care of you and whatever is making you act so uncharitably. I am also praying for myself to not be upset by this incident.

In Christ,
Laurenda