Tampering With the Word of God

Yes and the KJV does not use Sheol whereas other versions do. The Hebrew text has Sheol and the KJV does not. I guess the Anglicans didn't like Sheol.

Take a look at:


Gene 37:35
Gene 42:38
Gene 44:29
Gene 44:31
Numb 16:30
Numb 16:33
Deut 32:22
1Sam 2:6
2Sam 22:6
1Kin 2:6
1Kin 2:9
Job 7:9
Job 11:8
Job 14:13
Job 17:13
Job 17:16
Job 21:13
Job 24:19
Job 26:6
Psal 6:5
Psal 9:17
Psal 16:10
Psal 18:5
Psal 30:3
Psal 31:17
Psal 49:14
Psal 49:15
Psal 55:15
Psal 86:13
Psal 88:3
Psal 89:48
Psal 116:3
Psal 139:8
Psal 141:7
Prov 1:12
Prov 5:5
Prov 7:27
Prov 9:18
Prov 15:11
Prov 15:24
Prov 23:14
Prov 27:20
Prov 30:16
Eccl 9:10
Isai 5:14
Isai 7:11
Isai 14:9
Isai 14:11
Isai 14:15
Isai 28:15
Isai 28:18
Isai 38:10
Isai 38:18
Isai 57:9
Ezek 31:15
Ezek 31:16
Ezek 31:17
Ezek 32:21
Ezek 32:27
Hose 13:14
Amos 9:2
Jona 2:2
Haba 2:5

Take a look at Psalm 9:17. The KJV changed the wording for the Hebrew word Sheol from the way it treats it in other cases.

 

Actually, by using the word "Hell" is places where words like Hades and Gehenna appear, the implication in English is that they are interchangeable. They are indeed not. Hades/Sheol are simply the place where souls of the deceased reside. Gehenna, otoh, is the Lake of Fire. It is completely different than Sheol/Hades/. Any English translation (KJV or otherwise) that uses "Hell" as described required study of the original wordings and their meanings to more accurately understand the intent of the writers.

 

Tampering with the word of God is indeed serious sin. So the KJV folks should be ashamed their translation does so.

 

"How would you become a Christian without the Tindale Bible before 1611?"

Same way one does now-by the grace and power of JESUS CHRIST [/QUOTE]

Right; not by any particular translation of scripture.

 

Bad analogy since your choice is not between a real gun and a fake one. Your choice is between two real guns, one that is 400 years old and one that is new. Which would be more powerful and more accurate? The new one. The reason it is more powerful and accurate is because it uses modern technology.

The reason why modern versions are more powerful and more accurate is because they use modern language, take advantage of everything that God has preserved for us (thereby not limiting God's preservation to our own preferences) ... In other words, they cut to the heart in language that we speak.

 

I wish you were able to see just how silly and pathetic that is. If you were actually going to war, or you were forced to defend yourself, would you use a gun 400 years old instead of one manufactured much more recently? If you did, it would be a matchlock type of ignition, where you would have to have a torch or candle to light a fuse to make it fire. And these guns were not accurate at all.

But let's get more relevant. If you buy a new car, would you prefer the Owner's Manual be in the KJV-type language, or in contemporary English? It might say, "number two (cylinder) shall prevent, as it fireth, number three." ("Prevent" in KJV means precede, as in I Thessalonians 4:15.) Why would you not want information data in contemporary languaage? And the Bible IS information data, not Shakespeare's or Marlowe's fictional drama.

And finally, consider the words: "They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."
This is Acts 16:31 from the NASB. Is that a "blank" you are referring to?

 

Didja ever stop to consider that sheol, hades, tartarus, & gehenna each mean something different?
Plain ol'"hell" isn't very descriptive. It's like asking a Chevy owner what kind of car he/she has & he/she answers, "General Motors"-true, but not very exact.

And rather than having just one "straight stick", I have a whole bundle!

(Lemme see...General Motors...wasn't he in the French & Indian War?)

 

It was actually General Electric, Colonel Saunders, Major Minor, Captain Krunch, Corporeal Punishment, and Private Matter!

 

You is some bad, bad boys...but that's okay, he who laughs, lasts!

 

How about SHE?

H-HA-H-HA-HA-HA!(Mule Skinner Blues)

I reckon we badd for wanting to know what GOD says in His word instead of taking some other man's(or woman's) word for it.

 

Plain ol'"hell" isn't very descriptive, sez robycop3.


"Oh really? Do tell! While I've always read about "hell", I can only imagine the horror of it & thank God I don't have to go there!

When I see "hell" in one place & see it again in another & yet another, etc, there is "no doubt" as to it's existence. Hell is a real place of fire & torment!

Whereas in the sermon I was talkin'bout, the preacher said in other versions, one verse'll use one word, & on down, another word, & still on over, another, etc. Those 'other' words, instead of "hell", didn't seem very descriptive to me.

All this sure seems confusing, but then, I'm not as *bright* as most of you all are, so I'll just "stick" to what's worked for over 50yrs for me! "C-ya in Heaven"!

 

However, there are some of us who like to know as much about God's word as possible. And that includes hell. Why? So we can accurately answer questions about what God sais about hell. Remember, Jesus spoke a LOT more about hell than He did heaven.

Sheol(Hebrew) the grave, roughly corresponds to Hades. Not necessarily a place of punishment.
Hades(Greek)the abode of the dead, divided into Paradise for the righteous dead & Torments for the wicked dead.

Tartaros(Greek) the abode for the angels who sinned, until judgment
Gehenna(Greek)the eternal lake of fire, the final and everlasting abode of the unforgiven wicked people, the angels who sinned, and Satan himself.


It is NOT tampering with God's word to leave those names untranslated. I mean, after all, they're in the SOURCES for our English Bibles. The generic "hell" doesn't present the full meaning of each of these terms except for "Gehenna". "Sheol" is NOT necessarily a place of punishment, & the BVs which always render Sheol as Hell are incorrect.

 

Your definitions for Hades/Sheol etc vs Hell are correct. English translations that translate "Hades" and "Gehenna" both as Hell are incorrect. "Hades" and "Gehenna" are NOT the same. To use the word "Hell" interchangeably results in adding to the word of God, something that we are biblically forbidden from doing.

Referring to Hades and Gehenna as the same is tampering with the Word of God. Referring to them separately is keeping the Word of God intact.

 

PTL!

 

If you want to find out more what hell is like look up the word gehenna and what it described. It was a description of the most awful place. It was a place where the fires never stopped and the worms were always present. It was actually a real place.

 

PTL! </font>[/QUOTE]just what in the world does that mean PTL? </font>[/QUOTE]PTL means "Praise The Lord."

 

Doesn't PTL stand for Praise The Lord and Pass the Loot?