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Tax Rebate Time

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Dragoon68, Apr 19, 2008.

  1. Dragoon68

    Dragoon68 Active Member

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    This was just received from a "friend" of mine:

    Comrades,

    I provide "services" to people - or at least I'm suppose to do that - and I get to charge them for it. I also, in large part, get to decide what "services" I want to provide and how much they will cost. I've devise a "fair" system for doing this. My plan is one that charges proportionally more to those that earn more - not for working for me but for others. Also to be "fair" I make more of the services available to those who earn less. I say this is "fair" because these people "need" the services more and the others can "afford" to pay for it with "their own money". In this instance I don't consider the money they paid to have been theirs any more. It now belongs to me so I can distribute it however I want. This way I always gain lots of friends, supporters, and dependents among the "working class". That sounds right doesn't it, comrades? But more recently I've collected more than I needed - or could effectively spend - so I'm going to "give" some of it back. I can use the word "give" because it's not "theirs" anymore. Actually, I've discovered that the people can make more effective use of the money themselves than I can by providing "services" for them but I have a difficult time admitting that and really need my role to remain secure. Giving them the money back will permit them to spend it they way they want. I figure it will increase the overall economy's strength which will benefit me later on with a larger base upon which to provide "services" and collect "charges". In this case I somewhat recognize it was "their money". But now, again in the interest of being "fair", I've devised another system - the opposite of the previous - to return proportionally more to those who paid less or have larger families or whatever criteria unrelated to what they paid or even if they paid. I say this is "fair" because these people "need" the money more and the others who won't miss it all that much. This way I'll really make the "less fortunate" my friends, supporters, and dependents for life. Some will argue that the less fortunate are those who paid more and now will not be getting back more but that's just not true! In fact, the next time I have this great idea everyone will expect to be handled this way. So, if I'm smart I'll make sure I always collect more than I need and get to re-distribute that money twice the way I think it really needs to be handled. I know I didn't work for the money - meaning I did absolutely nothing to earn it and it's not really mine - but, hey, this is only "fair" and, besides, these days no one is real concerned about things like this. It's okay because the people paying have plenty thanks to the over-riding prosperity of their overall endeavors. These captalists are great for building up an economy from which to skim off wealth. This is a good way for me circumvent the original concepts of our national enterprises and apply some of my personal principles to redistribute the wealth out more "fairly".

    Karl
     
  2. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Is this supposed to be about the tax rebates that will be sent out by the federal government next month? If so, the story doesn't apply as the federal government does not take in as much as it spends.
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    Maybe the small fonst fit tightly together effectd this but the title doesn't seem to match the op. Neither does kens comment mach the op.
     
  4. Dragoon68

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    Karl will be pleased to know that, so far, the connection between his letter and the tax rebate is illusive.
     
  5. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Is this supposed to be tied somehow to Karl Marx and the idea of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"?

    Are you attempting to say that you are opposed to next month's tax rebate checks?
     
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    Is Karl a :

    1. Tax Preparer

    2. Accountant

    3. CPA
     
  7. dragonfly

    dragonfly New Member

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    Anyone who doesn't want their check only needs to endorse it and PM me for my address.
     
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    The government is just giving back what they stole from us.
     
  9. dragonfly

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    You think that taxes are stealing?
     
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    I do. At least Jesse James used a gun. My interests are not represented in Washington DC by either party.
     
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    Yes, a large portion of my earnings have been stolen to support entitlement programs, etc. that don't encourage people to work for what they have but prepetuate their dependence on Uncle.
     
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    Submitting to the higher power does not negate the fact they are stealing from me and not representing me. Pharoah put straw in the bricks, too. I only mention that because we Americans are under the illusion that we have a representative form of government, when in reality, we average Joe and Jane citizens are not represented.
     
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    Well said!
     
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  15. Dragoon68

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    Hey, now we're getting warmer!
     
  16. dragonfly

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    Paying taxes if part of being a good citizen and a good Christian.

    Phil 2:14-15
    14 Do everything without complaining or arguing,
    15 so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe
    (NIV)
     
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    Don't expect me and most others to sit by and not call our present tax structure exactly what it is and that is stealing. It's just as un-Biblical not to say so. Wrong is wrong. They have stolen the 15% of my income which is supposed to help in retirement and wasted it away. Both democrats and republicans are equal offenders. By the time I am of retirement age in thirty years or so, there won't be any SS except perhaps a token amount.
     
  18. Revmitchell

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    Something Wade Burleson could learn. But I digress.

    Nothing in scripture requires that we accept excessive taxes that are not going for what they were pulled out of our possession for. Such is stealing to be sure. We shouldnt just stand by and accept that out families be financially hurt because socialist/communists want to take form me to give to someone else.
     
  19. dragonfly

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    Rom 13:1-2
    1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
    2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
    (NIV)

    Phil 2:14-15
    14 Do everything without complaining or arguing,
    15 so that you may become blameless and pure, children of God without fault in a crooked and depraved generation, in which you shine like stars in the universe
    (NIV)
     
  20. Dragoon68

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    I agree and more so every day!
     
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