Taxonomy of Fundamentalism (IFB)

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  1. fmcsimmons

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    Hi all,

    I have scoured the web and looked for resources to no-avail regarding this. What I am looking for is a brief overview of the different "camps" in American fundamentalism today. When I say fundamentalism I am referring largely to Independent Baptists.

    For example, it appears that the various factions seem to be split by the various fundamental colleges (PCC,Hyles-Anderson,Crown, etc) Is there anybody who is more well versed who could briefly outline these different "factions" as it were and possibly give a few distinctives for each? I understand it is far from cut and try but a nice clear outline would be super helpful to use for reference purposes.

    Thanks,

    FMS
     
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    There may be some popular Baptist preachers that are more recognized because of their public statements (David Cloud, Peter Ruckman, Lance Ketchum, Robert Sumner, John Piper, Matt Olsen, et al) but because the they are still independent Baptists, you will be very hard pressed to find anything that resembles a "faction" other than those who refuse fellowship with particular followers of the above named examples.

    I know that may seem like I just described a bunch of factions, but there really isn't an organized collective faction that follow one particular set of established dogmas like a Missouri Synod or Diocese, etc..that's what makes them independent.
     
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    Eh I know what you mean but there are definitely "factions". Not in the strict sense of the way you are saying but there is a definite distinction between the "Hyles crowd" and the "Sword of the Lord" folks and of course the BBF guys and etc etc. I was just looking for somebody familiar with these different "crowds" and some of their minutia.
     
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    I wasn't planning to post here anymore. There's just too much animosity and even hate towards us fundamentalists on the BB. But this seems an innocuous enough subject that I'll see if I can help. Note that there is much cross-pollination in these groups. I'm supported by some from each. Note also that I do not include the SOTL as a faction, since it has no direct ties to any school or mission board, though it does have conferences.

    1. GARBC: originally came out of the N. Baptists; main mission boards are BMM and ABWE; main college: Baptist Bible College and seminary in Clarks Summit PA; generally not KJVO.

    2. Southern fundamentalists: originated from the SBC; main mission board is BIMI; main schools are Pensacola & Crown (Tennessee Temple was so in the '60's to 80's but no more); most are KJVO.

    3. FBC Hammond: originated through Jack Hyles' influence and ministry mostly from Southern fundamentalists (like Bob Gray from TX) and HAC grads; mission board is FBMI; school is Hyles-Anderson College. Is KJVO, but has eased its stance somewhat.

    4. FBF affiliated: originated out of the N. Baptists; main mission boards are BWM and GFA; many grads from BJU, MBBC, Pillsbury (now defunct), Central Seminary, etc.; definitely not KJVO.

    5. BBF: originated from J. Frank Norris influence, but distanced themselves; mission board is BBFI; main school is Baptist Bible College in Springfield, MO; currently there is a struggle between old school KJVO pastors and new school type BBF, with the old school supporting Heartland for their college.

    6. Independent Baptist Friends International: In a recent development Clarence Sexton (Crown College) and Paul Chappell (West Coast Baptist College) have banded together to promote the Great Commission and fellowship among IFBs. It remains to be seen whether this is an actual movement or just a fellowship.

    7. IFBx: extremists do exist. They may have a small college under their church, and send out missionaries only through the local church. But they are not a faction, really, though they may fellowship with churches in the area. And many who are labeled this way are good, gracious people and don't deserve the term "extremist."

    8. Bible Presbyterians: originated with the exodus by fundamentalists from the liberal mainline group; led for many years by Carl McIntyre.

    9. IFCA (Independent Fundamental Churches of America): some would say this group is no longer fundamental, but I don't know enough about its recent history to say.
     
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    Why are you attempting to hijack this thread? I suggest you think up a positive contribution instead of criticizing your fiancé here. Perhaps you should speak to her directly and correct her that way instead of here. (Good luck with that.)

    And no, I'm not in the slightest interested in your objections to the IFB movement.
     
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    I am not sure why you interpreted what I had to say as a criticism of my fiancé and that I am hijacking a thread. But I will say that sin must be exposed, and I will expose the IFB movement and all man based evangelism methodology.
     
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    The thread is not about your fiancé, CCM, what's wrong with fundamentalism, IFB sin, man-based evangelism methodology or anything else you have written here so far.

    As for your own evangelism methodology, this is twice now that you've refused on various threads to answer posts of mine about evangelism and further discuss it with me. You obviously don't think much of my views of evangelism. Why should I then care about yours? The last time we interacted about it, you could not answer a most basic, honest inquiry about it, but instead emailed your method's guru, who then refused to reply to you.
     
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    If people wish to be rude to me then so be it. I only seek to proclaim the word of God. Apologies for offending you, sorry..
     
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    Putting my Moderator and Admin hat ON.

    And these are the reasons you want to highjack this thread. I agree with JoJ. There is an air of animosity towards Fundamentalists on this Board.
     
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    This is a great list, John!

    On a side issue, do you think HAC should change its name - especially in the light of the continual scandal(s) and now that none of the Hyles family are involved with the school or church?

    Btw, I agree about the animosity.
     
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    That's okay. God bless.
     
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    Let me put it this way. If I were to found a Bible college, I definitely wouldn't stick my name on it! :saint:
    But you rarely see us here on the BB rail against other groups such as the American Baptists, the SBC, the Primitives, etc., even though we have definite opinions about them. Sometimes it just seems like open season on us here. On the other hand, I'm glad that most of those who rail are not IFB! :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Best wishes
     
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    And that is sad.
     
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    I thought this thread was about identifying different ifb "camps"?
     
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