Teach your children to question authority at Mcdonalds

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  1. ASLANSPAL

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    OUTRAGED! yes I am shouting

    Yes we must teach nice hardworking innocent kids
    to question authority...do it respectfully and they should know the company rule book by heart
    and know when they are being taken advantage of.

    What happened with the report on Primetime had me
    riveted and stunned in disbelief a young hard working innocent girl had her life changed forever because of devious evil at work ..the rush of temptation was to hunt down the Mcdonalds managers fiance and beat him to a pulp
    what a scum of gahinnon to have raped that girl
    I hope he gets more than 30 years. I hope he repents and gets saved but if he does not then
    hard time in a terrible place would not bother me
    one bit.(rather disjointed right now)

    McDonald's hoax story goes Primetime

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    It is a story that has had everyone talking in Kentuckiana and, on Thursday night, it will get national attention on ABC’s Primetime Live.

    A phone hoax at a McDonald's restaurant in Mount Washington, Ky., led to a young employee being strip-searched— all because of a voice on the phone.

    Surveillance pictures show teenage employee Louise Ogborn emptying her pockets, then later, taking off her clothes and being strip-searched by her boss, assistant manager Donna Summers.


    Fast Food Nightmare
    ABC NEWS PRIMETIME


    Nov. 10, 2005 — Louise Ogborn was always willing to take on extra shifts at McDonald's in Mount Washington, Ky. Ogborn's mother had health problems and had recently lost her job, so the 18-year-old did whatever she could to help make ends meet.


    On April 9, 2004, Ogborn offered to work through the restaurant's evening rush, trying to be helpful and make a few extra dollars.



    Related: McDonald's Response




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    "I was just going to eat and then clock back in and help until somebody else came along that could help," she said.


    But Ogborn couldn't have known that her noble gesture would turn into a terrifying ordeal that she says will haunt her for the rest of her life.


    A Startling Accusation


    Ogborn was called into assistant manager Donna Summers' cramped office and told that Summers was on the telephone with a police officer.


    "She said, 'Here she is. This is the girl you described,'" said Ogborn. "She told me to shut the door."


    Summers told Ogborn that the officer on the phone had their store manager on the other line and that he had described her and accused her of stealing a purse from a customer.


    "I was like, 'Donna, I've never done anything wrong,'" Ogborn said. "I could never steal — I could never do anything like that. I don't have it in me."


    But inside the back office, which had now become an "interrogation room," Ogborn's protests fell on deaf ears.


    "She said, 'Well, they said it was a little girl that looked like you in a McDonald's uniform, so it had to be you.'"


    It was Ogborn's word against the accusation of a man claiming to be a cop, and she was given a choice: submit to a search or be escorted to the police station.

    (it gets worse ..much,much, worse.)
     
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    What's even worse is that this is not the first time. These hoax calls have been taking place in fast food restaurants all over the US. I'm sorry, but what person in their right mind would take orders from a VOICE ON THE TELEPHONE, just because they claim to be the police. I would think that common sense should tell these people that if these girls need to be STRIPPED SEARCHED, then the police need to come in and arrest them and conduct the search THEMSELVES.

    In this case, why would the manager actually believe that they needed her fiance to come guard the girl? What is even more disgusting is the fiance's claim that the "police man" on the phone told him to sexually assault the girl, so he did. It is absolutely ridiculous!
     
  3. Bunyon

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    Sounds like products of the public schools.
     
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    :confused:

    Not sure what you mean? What does the public school system have to do with it?
     
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    Bunyon ,I sincerely do not understand your post and its relation to the story ..could you expound please.
     
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    I just don't think that the public education system among other influances have prepared young people to deal with the real world.

    "Yes we must teach nice hardworking innocent kids
    to question authority...do it respectfully and they should know the company rule book by heart
    and know when they are being taken advantage of"

    Most of us, not all, have left all things of significance to the public schools to be tought. They have failed to educate the young people in the manner your describe above. But why should I blame the schools just because the parents have abbocated their responsiblities? The village, in general, is just not very good at preparing kids for what really matters. And the parents are too busey.

    In other words, well prepared kids would never fall for such a thing!
     
  7. Joseph_Botwinick

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    Let me see here...

    Submit to strip search

    or....

    Go downtown, lawyer up and have someone on my side who actually knows the law?

    I know which one I would choose, and I was even a product of public education. I guess my parents taught me common sense at home while my school taught me academics. Isn't that the way education is supposed to work?

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    "I guess mt parents taught me common sense at home while my school taught me academics."--------------------------------------------------------

    That is how it supposed to work, but the public shool system is taken on way more then just the academics to our and their detriment. But that in now way reflects badly on you Joseph.
     
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    The sad part of the reality is, many parents have stopped being parents and expect the public schools to do their job for them. Most of us in public education would be more than happy to get back to our proper roles if only the majority of parents would do so also.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    I agree 100% Joseph, but I still question the intelligence of the manager and her fiance. Was the girl naive? Of course. The question remains, though, why would anyone in their right mind, who is an adult and a manager, listen to VOICE ON THE TELEPHONE? If the girl was a suspect in a theft, common sense would tell me that the POLICE WOULD COME AND QUESTION HER, not allow me to strip search her. Once again, I ask, what was this lady thinking? McDonalds should step up the bar a little in their hiring practices, imo.

    BTW, I still do not see a connection between the public school system and this case.
     
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    She was probably thinking, "HMMMM...easy prey to satisfy my perverted fantasy". That would be my guess.

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    "BTW, I still do not see a connection between the public school system and this case."----------------------------------------------------------

    Its a general Idea. Its part of the "village", and the village just can't or wont do a good job raising Kid's. I am refering to the general dumbing down of our young people. The public schools wanted the job of teaching values to our kids, or should I say it was fosted on the schools by certain elements and the school just can't get the job done.

    This is the same kind of stuppidity that a young person displays when they say Oral sex is not sex. Or when they buy into a host of values that are propagated by the public schools. Or when a judge say certain insitutions have more authority than the parents, like the 9th circuit.
    In most kids lives the school(government)is the ultimate authority. Why would she question another authority figure like a manager?
     
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    I don't want that job. I would personally love to see the majority of parents take back that role and let me be a teacher. I recognize, however, that short of a work of God in the lives of the Church and in the Church's communities, that this is not going to happen.

    This is the same kind of stuppidity that a young person displays when they say Oral sex is not sex. Or when they buy into a host of values that are propagated by the public schools. [/QUOTE]

    Actually, they learned that from pop culture, the president (Clinton that is), and many sources. I admit I haven't attended sex ed in a long time, but certainly don't remember the lecture about oral sex not really being sex. Might you possibly cite your source where you find public schools are teaching this? Was this in California by any chance? ;)

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    I attended Sex Ed in the Carolinas and all I can say is what they did and said was not common sense or compatible with christian thought. But that is the point is it not? Why do the schools think it is their job to teach kids about sex. The health department idiots that our school brought in to teach it had a policy that they had to read a question (we could submit questions on anonymous papers) exactly as it was written. I can't tell you how often the f word was read, or how often the teachers themsleves were solicited for sex by an anonymous teenager. It was co-ed and they did not just teach us about some health issues, they tought us how to have sex. They showed us with life like genital models exactly how the penis was supposed to be inserted into the vagina and what the motion was supposed to be like. Unfortunantly, Joseph, I don't think many public schools are separate from the popular culture. For instance you mention Calf. they tried to get an initiative passed that gay tolerance had to be tought in every class and every subject. But sex ed would be responsible to counter the popular idea that oral sex is not sex, yes? Apparently they haven't.
     
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    I don't want that job. I would personally love to see the majority of parents take back that role and let me be a teacher. I recognize, however, that short of a work of God in the lives of the Church and in the Church's communities, that this is not going to happen.

    </font>[/QUOTE]I dont want that job either Joseph. I cringe everytime it hits me that a young person only does the right thing because I have a gun and a badge.

    What happened to teaching children to do the right thing because it is the right thing? Sigh.
     
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    I thought that the reason parents homeschool is that their children will not experience the "real world" that the public school children experience. So how are young people taught to deal with the real world?

    This is a very, very sad case, and I can't imagine adults falling for it. I certainly would not want my fiancé in a room with a nearly naked girl. The entire situation seems
    suspect. Really makes me angry that someone would be treated this way.

    This just brings to mind another thing that we need to teach our children. They need to be sure that that they are dealing with the real police and demand their rights and not be afraid to choose to go to the police station.

    I am thinking that public school children probably know a lot about their rights.

    This is a bad situation and has nothing to do with schools.
     
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    That is an absolutley heinous thing for the manager of the McDonalds store to have done, and I can not believe that McDonalds on their response said that "ultimatley" the caller was captured.

    The manager of the store that did that should never be released from jail.

    I hope that people boycott McDonalds. I would not put one cent into that company after reading that.
     
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    Can I have some of what you're on? :eek:
     
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    I don't think this was McDonald's fault. They apparently have fired everyone involved in this and cooperated with authorities to see that the people were caught who did this.
     
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    It will start when the parents stop being so lazy and greedy. Many have found out that greed and the desire for money rules a lot of things. So many are not satisfied with just having their fair share but instead want more at any cost.

    Parents even call the university and complain about how much homework their children have. Then on the opposite end we have foreign students who come to study in America and shake their heads when they hear such things. The foreigner loks and the library and says, "Wow!" Often the American comes and says they don't like all that work. I have heard students tell professors they don't need to know how to write because they won't be writing papers in the real world. Yet we live in a world that communicates in writing more and more. People send Emails and communicate around the world.
     

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