Team Bush to "Cut & Run"

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  1. Magnetic Poles

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    Now you want us there?

    :BangHead:

    I never have 'wanted' us there. Iraq was and always will be a necessary evil.

    I guess we can't just get along.

    :1_grouphug:
     
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    That's not what he said.

    Are you just mistaken or lying for some reason?
     
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    Which one are you claiming Bush didn't say?

    Prove that it's either one, that it is not true.
     
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    MP Wrote:

    First, Bush lies to George Stephanopoulis, saying he never said "stay the course",



    That is not what Bush said to Stephanopoulis.

    How much clearer can I be?
     
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    If you had been clear in the first place instead of using unattributed pronouns, I wouldn't've asked.

    So, what did Bush say to Stephanopoulis?
     
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    I'm very curious about what MP's reason is for misstating what Bush actually said, aren't you?:confused:
     
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    Carpro, you original post was very clear.
     
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    You haven't shown that he misstated anything, you've merely asserted it.

    So you're making a big, honking distinction between "never been" and "never said"? No wonder you refused to say what Bush said. You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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    Could be he is referring to the critics definition of "stay the course"

     
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    No.

    If Bush said what MP said he did, Bush would have blatantly lied. But he didn't.

    What I want to know is if MP made a mistake or if MP is the blatant liar instead of Bush.

    Simple question, but it sure seems to be tying you in knots.:laugh: I'd let MP answer for himself if I were you. You're not doing too well.
     
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    I know, but we're talking about Daisy here.:BangHead:
     
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    If it were a regular poster, sure, but carpro is one of those to backtrack and fudge who "he" was and what was said if it isn't specified. Notice he declined to specify what was said because it exposed his game for what it is.

    What does "Listen, we've never been stay the course, George" mean? With Bush's garbled English, interpretations must be made. What is yours?

    How does that not contradict:
    • "We will stay the course. We will help this young Iraqi democracy succeed," he said in Salt Lake City in August.
    • "We will win in Iraq so long as we stay the course," he said in Milwaukee in July.
    • "I saw people wondering whether the United States would have the nerve to stay the course and help them succeed," he said after returning from Baghdad in June.
    Again, how do you interpret "we've never been stay the course"? That is hardly a blatant lie, but you seem to be shameless in your accusation.

    Why don't you tell me what you think "we've never been stay the course" means and how that doesn't contradict his previous "stay the course" statements?

    You can't. All you can do is repeat your inane accusation.
     
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    I am not sure how Bush can get away from the phrase "Stay the Course" That's his catch phrase for Iraq for years now, and yet, he says he didn't say it?!?

    Oh well....
     
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    That's because he didn't say he didn't say it.

    Are you willingly falling into MP's liars trap as well?
     
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    Originally Posted by Washington Post
    From transcript of Bush speech on War on Terror

    BUSH: If by "Stay the course," they mean, "We will not allow the terrorists to break our will," they're right.
    If by "Stay the course," they mean, "We will not permit Al Qaida to turn Iraq into what Afghanistan was under the Taliban, a safe haven for terrorism and a launching pad for attacks on America," they're right, as well.
    If by "Stay the course," they mean that we're not learning from our experiences or adjusting our tactics to meet the challenges on the ground, then they're flat wrong.
    As our top commander in Iraq, General Casey, has said, "Our commanders on the ground are continuously adapting and adjusting, not only to what the enemy does, but also to try to outthink the enemy and get ahead of him."
    Our strategy in Iraq is clear. Our tactics are flexible and dynamic. We have changed them as conditions required and they are bringing us victory against a brutal enemy.


    Thanks BLAMMO.
     
  18. carpro

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    Oh please , Daisy. :tear:

    This is getting painful. Watching you try to make a lie stand up after it has been proven a lie is sooo... well... so Clintonesque.:BangHead:
     
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    What does "Listen, we've never been stay the course, George" mean?

    Poor carpro, can't admit you're wrong and apologize to MP like a decent person would do.
    There are about 444 more similar articles.
     
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    So what.

    Either MP made a mistake or blatantly lied.

    Which?

    I'd like to hear from him on it.
     
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