Teen Girls Face Hate Crime Charges Over Anti-Gay Flier

It's one thing to have anti-gay/religious beliefs concerning homosexuality, it is an entirely different thing to target a specific individual, using hateful and slanderous language. Did you read the article? The girls targeted a classmate and neighbor they had been feuding with, they were in no way trying to exercise their right to free speech and/or religion.

 

A good example of the idiocy of thought control legislation. No physical harm was even threatened, let alone action taken.

The first amendment is continually being eroded by liberals.

 

What was the crime he was targetted with? Felonious handing out of fliers?

 

Are you guys reading the same article I am reading? They were handing out fliers in their SCHOOL parking lot with HATEFUL LANGUAGE about a fellow student, no different from a neo-nazi handing out hate material about a fellow black student. The girls were not targeting homosexuality as much as they were THIS BOY! Do you really believe these girls should be the poster children of free speech, especially considering the one already has a lengthy criminal record? Please..... I'm sure there are much better "test cases" out there.

 

While this may be a matter for school discipline, I don't see any crime. What next? Little kids calling 'nanny nanny boo boo' on the swingset and hiding from the boy with cooties are going to be arrested?

 

Too bad they weren't a group of black thugs who tortured, repeatedly raped, and mutilated a couple of white youths.

Then, no hate crime laws would have been broken.

 

Again, what article have you been reading? The article says nothing at all regarding a FEDERAL hate crimes statute. You do know that Illinois has a STATE hate crimes statute that specifically addresses actual or perceived crimes against homosexuals, don't you?

http://www.hrc.org/Template.cfm?Sec...EMPLATE=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm

 

Yes, and they are also covered in the state hate crimes stautes, IF they were committed for the sole reason of bias against the white youths. Some of you really need to brush up on your hate crime stats before you post. It helps if your preconceived ideas are backed up with facts......

 

This is sort of the point that I was making in my post. Pointing out that it's the thought police in action, but also pointing out that it's very one-sided.

Crimes are crimes. Thoughts are not. Not even if those thoughts are vile.

 

In your humble opinion I suppose. I see that you have amended your previous rant based on supposed 10th amendment violations. I wonder what argument you will use now that you do not have a consitutional leg to stand on, so to speak?

BTW, I would love to hear how hate crime laws are a serious threat to our liberty, using actual facts/stats, and since this thread concerns a state hate crime why don't we stick to that. FTR, are you even a citizen of Illinois?

Right.... Why don't you prove it.... (Keep in mind I am looking for actual facts and not superfluous opinion.)

 

:laugh: Of course that's your argument now.... Just a minute ago you were ranting and raving about these poor young ladies falling prey to the unjust federal government. Do you even know how many hate crimes were actually reported in the last few years? What about the types of hate crimes committed? Here's a good one, what about the hate crime rate in correlation to the overall crime rate?

 

We are still free to think whatever we like. We CANNOT put our thoughts into criminal action, and that is what these girls did. It was not a general flier about their beliefs on homosexuality. It was a flier that specifically targeted an individual with the intent of damaging said individual, whether in character or deed. There is a BIG DIFFERENCE. Hate crimes statutes, as they stand now, do not target speech, they target criminal action.