Telegony - What a mess - is it true???

From what I can find on the internet, it is taught as scare tactic to keep women virgins until they are married and is used a "proof" of unfaithfulness. I can't find anywhere in these same informational sites where they are concerned with men being pure.

Do you have any links for these stats?

It supports none of these things because this theory is poppycock.

Every site that I can find says that this theory was introduced by a man name Lord Morton in the 19th century and perpetuated by Darwin.

Lord Morton bred a white mare with a zebra. I don't remember if there was an offspring or not. Then he bred the same white mare with a white stallion. The offspring of the white mare/white stallion had some unusual "stripe-like markings" on one of it's back legs.

So, therein lies the ENTIRE basis of telegony.

Every site that I looked at said that the process had been repeated over and over using horses, rabbits, and other animals without success.

And Lord Morton never at all took into account the fact of recessive traits carried by the parents that they got from the grandparents.

Did the man know the markings and colorations of the 4 horses who were the grandparents of this horse who had solid white parents, but with funny markings on it's back leg?

I have a dear friend who is a brunette and her husband is a blonde. Both of their children are red-heads. To exclude the genetic facts of recessive genes carried by us ALL, and to believe in telegony, then the hair color of those children is factual evidence that my dear friend was unfaithful to her husband.

As I said......poppycock.

 

It doesn't matter if she has jelly beans that become a permanent part of her womb. What does her womb (uterus) have to do with conception of a child and the child's genetic makeup?

The womb is just the "oven". The sperm and the egg are the "ingredients".

That's like saying that if you baked a chocolate cake in your brand new oven last week, that when you cooked lasagna in it this week, the lasagna will be full of chocolate and every other food item that you cook in that oven will come out of the oven tasting like chocolate.

For telegony to be a reality, her genetic code found in the billions of egg cells that she is born with that are contained in her ovaries would have to change. And how do you propose that that happens? I would be interested in hearing that theory, let me tell you. :saint:

Again, that would be like saying that when you baked that chocolate cake in your brand new oven, that all of the food items in your pantry and refrigerator turned to chocolate.

And her genetic code isn't just found in her egg cells. It's the same genetic code or DNA found in her hair, her skin, her fingernail, her gums, and her eyelashes. How can one have a genetic code for part of one's body and an alternate genetic code for the rest?

Again, I have never heard of this and you say that 99% of animal breeders believe this.

I've heard of "throw backs" with animal breeders, but that is not in reference in previous mates, but previous generations, i.e. grandparents, great-grandparents...... The term "throw backs" is in reference to the sometimes uncontrolled variable of recessive genetic traits that the biological mother and father carry.

Yes, the breeders that I know are very careful whom their animals mate. Not just the first time, but every time. Yes, they do want "top-notch" studs. And they want them every time and pay a hefty price for them. But that's because they want a new generation of animals that will sell for a great price.

If telegony is true, then why are breeders hyper-careful every single time their female are in season? If telegony is true, then you could mate your prize-winning mare with a prize-winning stallion and from then on, for all of the rest of the breedings across her lifetime, it wouldn't matter what pathetic jackass (literally a mule) she mated with.....that first stallion's DNA would override them all.

Think of all the stud fees you could save money on!!

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Competent or not (I can't make that evaluation), you are deserving of an opinion. Everyone is.

That was my quest in my two rather lengthy posts. It's something can't seem to break.....rambling on and on.....:BangHead:

I wanted to know how it could possibly be true when documented and tested and genuine science tells us that it cannot be true.

 

While what you say is quite correct, I don't think that you can compare the still necessary and voluminous research into communicable diseases to the concrete understanding of where babies come from! :thumbs:

If we are wrong on that, then heaven help us! :laugh: :laugh:

 

Close, but no cigar. :laugh:

This is a great story of God's provisions for His people when the world tries to cheat them and manipulate them, but it has nothing to do with telegony.

Jacob asked for all of the spotted, speckled, and dark sheep for his wages. Laban thought he would trick Jacob by taking these animals out of the herd and giving them to his sons.

The reason that the some of the sheep that were left bore spotted, speckled, and dark babies had nothing to do with the science of genetics. It had to do with Almighty God performing a miracle.

When Jacob took all of the animals to the water them, he peeled branches of various trees, leaving streak marks in them, and place all of those branches in front of the some of the sheep who were mating at the watering hole.

Those babies were born with streaks.

AND it says that Jacob separated the weak adults from the strong adults and did not place those branches with streaks in them into front of the weak animals who were mating. And the weak adults bore non-streaked babies.

So...strong, solid-colored sheep mated in front of the streaked branches and got streaked babies. Those strong babies went to Jacob.

Weak, solid-colored sheep mated in front of no branches and got non-streaked babies. Those weak babies went to Laban.

So.....no genetics, no altering of DNA, no telegony.

Just Almighty God keeping Jacob wealthy and under His care.