ETERNAL, DELAYED, or TEMPORARY SALVATION and KINGDOM EXCLUSION? (MISUNDERSTOOD PROOF-TEXTS) He that believeth on the Son HATH everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. --John 3:36 . . .He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, HATH everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. -- John 5:24 . . . NOW are WE the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what WE shall be: but WE know that, when he shall appear, WE shall be like him; for WE shall see him as he is. -- 1 John 3:2 He that HATH the Son HATH life . . . -- 1 John 5:12 The following proof texts are used by lose your salvationists and Baptist purgatory advocates. The implications of their proof texts are self evident. We have responded to these implications. The above passages are sufficient to prove that Christians are given eternal life, when they believe, They can never lose it, and it can never be set aside or delayed. 1. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. -- Matt. 7:21 Not everyone that says Lord, Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven, because not everyone that is religious that says, "Lord, Lord," is "saved" or born again. Notice, in this context, that Jesus says, "I NEVER KNEW YOU" - not "I knew you and then lost you." (Matt. 7:23) The "will" of the Father is for the lost to believe unto salvation and for God to “LOSE NOTHING,” who do so (John 6:39, 40). 2. And five of them (ten virgins) were WISE [saved servants] and five were FOOLISH [unsaved servants]. They that were foolish TOOK THEIR LAMPS, and TOOK NIL [in their vessels] with them: But the wise TOOK OIL IN THEIR VESSELS with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And . . . there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh (for the wedding party not the bride-after the rapture) . . . Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so . . . go . . . buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were READY went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I KNOW YOU NOT. -- Matt. 25:1-12 This parable (concerning, possibly, the future tribulation, when Christ comes for the WEDDING PARTY and not the Bride) shows five UNPREPARED and UNREADY virgins that do not have oil (typical of the Holy Spirit) in their VESSELS. Saved folks are "prepared," having the Spirit. If not, they are none of His (Rom 8:9). Notice that Christ did not know these impostors. Both the foolish and the wise virgins took their lamps, the lamp or God’s WORD being a lamp unto their feet and a light unto their path. Yet the problem was no oil in the foolish virgins’ VESSELS. 3. Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord . . . I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant . . . Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that HATH shall be GIVEN, and he shall have abundance: but from him that HATH NOT shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the UNPROFITABLE servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. -- Matt. 25:24-30 False teachers infer and even state that the servants in this parable are saved servants, who become wicked servants, by not using the given talents, burying them, and then going to hell for it. No doubt, many wicked, unsaved servants will go to hell, not taking advantage of the "free gift" offered to them. The "lose your salvationist" mind imagines that only saved people can be God’s servants. The truth of the matter is that everyone is a servant OF God (but not necessarily a servant "TO" God (Rom. 6:22), for He is Lord and King of ALL, whether they acknowledge it or not. Both faithful, saved servants and wicked, unsaved servants (him that hath not) are viewed in this parable. Cyrus in the O.T. was God’s servant. Note that Jacob and Israel, who surely were not all saved are said to be God’s servants, and in this time future time frame, the tribulation Jews will not be all saved but will still bear the name “servant.” 4. There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, But he shall receive . . . in the world to come eternal life. -- Mark 10:29,30 This passage is a real boo-boo for any "lose your salvationist.” If such a one's implications are correct to gain eternal life or to keep eternal life, you would be required to leave your mother, father, children, wife, and so forth for the gospel's sake either to gain or maintain eternal life. Still, this passage as others are instructive, informational passages and not conditional passages nor conditions for salvation. 5. They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation FALL AWAY. -- Luke 8:13 Either this is a saved person or a lost person, but it cannot be a saved person, who gets lost (even though the word "believe" is used). Devils believe and tremble and aren't saved, because their belief is merely intellectual and does not involve trust (as is the case with many "supposed" believers). Still, the term "falling" or "falling away," like "death," does not demand nor is it synonymous with "hell." Also, hell or losing salvation is not even mentioned. It must be read into the passage not out of it. 6. For it is IMPOSSIBLE for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost. And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, IF they should FALL AWAY, to renew them again unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the son of God asfresh, and put him to an open shame. . . BUT . . . — Hebrews 6:4-6 If this passage teaches anything, it teaches that is impossible to be "renewed AGAIN unto repentance." If a saved person is meant by this passage, who becomes lost again, he cannot be renewed to repentance or re-saved! “Lose your salvationists” and “Christians in hellers” use these kind of proof texts to prove their view. Are saved people in this proof text? Absolutely! Does this passage teach that the impossibilty of saved people repenting after FALLING AWAY. Absolutely! Then, Herb Evans is wrong. Absolutely not! Paul is teaching the very opposite in this passage. Paul is using a hypothetical illustration with a hypothetical “IF” to show what would happen IF a Christian could fall from salvation. How do you know that? Because Paul continues by saying, “But beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that ACCOMPANY SALVATION, THOUGH WE THUS SPEAK” (Heb. 6:9). 7. But and if that SERVANT say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the men-servants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the UNBELIEVERS. And that servant, which KNEW his lord's will, and PREPARED NOT himself, NEITHER DID according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that KNEW NOT, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: -- Luke 12:41-48 Now, and in this prophetic view of the future tribulation, as we have already stated, all men are servants of the King (although not necessarily "TO" the King), whether they choose to be or not, for He is Lord of all. The unbelieving and unprepared, who do not the Lord's will (John 6:40), are the ones who say, "My Lord delayeth his coming." These unbelieving and unprepared and those, who do not know the will of the Lord, will have their portion with the unbelievers, for they are unbelievers who never were saved in the first place, even though religious, saying “Lord, Lord,” and so forth. Some will refuse the gospel and the Lord's will, and others may not know it (but still refuse to follow the light that they have), resulting in a different amount of stripes. Still, these servants are "unprepared" for His coming. All believers are prepared; all do not watch. 8. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YE CONTINUE in my word, then are ye my DISCIPLES indeed . . . -- John 8:31 Discipleship is discussed here, not hell nor loss of salvation. Believers should be discipled and be disciples INDEED, after being saved. Saved believers, who do not continue are not disciples INDEED, but they are still saved.