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Terrorist gas attack.

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by El_Guero, Feb 20, 2007.

  1. hillclimber1

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    In considering the source, I'm unruffled, but to deliberately misquote in order to change someones meaning or intent is wrong, or should be. But of course the smiley face is your caveat, huh.
     
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    Saudia Arabia

    Originally Posted by 2 Timothy2:1-4
    Daisy: //Such as? ... //

    Tee Hee! how can we know if it really is true?
    Your reply proves his statement to be correct.
     
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  3. Daisy

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    Well, I don't think they really wanted us to invade Iraq (fellow Sunni government) so much as they wanted us out of their country.
     
  4. John of Japan

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    Even when there is positive news they slant it negatively. Yesterday there was an AP article in the English Daily Yomiuri, "US Forces Capture Bomb Factory." I thought that was great myself, a major accomplishment. But the article had nothing positive to say at all. :tonofbricks:

    The article only talked about how terrible it was that the terrorists (not "insurgents" as the article said) were now using gas such as chlorine. There was nothing at all about how the factory was captured, how it will set back the terrorists, how many other factories have been captured, how the area where the factory was will be helped because the terrorists have been cleared out.
     
  5. redbelt

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    Daisy,

    There are dozens of schools that have been built...women have the opportunity of getting to vote and of getting an education... construction projects completed all over Iraq. These are just a few of the contributions that our military has made in Iraq.

    Remember, over 80% of our casualties are within 50 miles of baghdad. The outer areas of Iraq and doing well, that's one reason there was just recently a reduction of British troops in Basra.

    There are many good things that could and should be reported, but it's so much easier to sell bombings and death than schools and new buildings.

    I have spent one tour there and did witness the smiles on the faces of Iraqis that we were able to help.

    That's the same thing we want for the people in Baghdad. Now it looks like they are letting us take off the gloves and do the job right.
    I pray that it works and I pray that our leadership would completely back the mission of the surge.

    I want to pull my hair out when all these democrats keep saying " We need a new plan" and then when the president presented his plan they trashed it before he even publicly presented it.

    SURPRIZE: The surge was recommended by the Irag study group on page 73. In fact, they used the term SURGE.

    HELLO... THE BIPARTISAN GROUP SUPPORTED A SURGE IN BAGHDAD.

    The president takes heat from the democrats even when he does what they had told him to do before.
    How do you spell that? H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y!
     
  6. Daisy

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    Schools are nice....women have had sufferage for a long time in Iraq as well as constitutional equality (which US women do not have); girls have gone to school and gone on to have careers for decades there. Now that the government is Shiite-controlled, women have given up Western wear and taken to wearing hajibs - even the ones who are not Muslim - for fear. You seem to be confusing the situation of women in Afghanistan with that of women in Iraq.

    Construction projects are nice, but employment, water and electricity might be better.

    Where are the majority of British casualties? Here (linky) is a good graphic of the location of coalition casualties by country, over time.

    The elections (purple fingers) sold well, but generally that's the way it is - sensational bad news sells (and celebrity babies and breakups). Reading the daily tabloid here, you would think that murder, rape and assaults were all that happened here.

    I'm glad you got to see that and that you were able to help.

    I think it's particularly difficult in an urban setting.

    If the mission is to bring civil order to Iraq, then I pray the same. Truly, I hope it is successful so we can get out of there.

    Yeah, what year was it that Murtha had called for more troops? He was roundly dissed by the Republicans then. How do you spell that?


    Do you know of a particularly good construction project that you can report on, even if it's just here?
     
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    Daisy: //Construction projects are nice, but employment,
    water and electricity might be better.//

    Once again you appear to NOT know what you are talking about.
    The Construction projects ARE providing employment.
    Some construction projects ARE to restore the water
    distribution system.
    Some constructions projects ARE to restore the
    electrical system.

    Redbelt: //I have spent one tour there and did witness
    the smiles on the faces of Iraqis that we were able to help. //

    :thumbs: Thank you for serving. :thumbs:
     
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    I'll second that. :thumbs:
    God bless you, Redbelt.
     
  9. Daisy

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    That was a nastly little dig; I'm surprised that it came from you.
    Considering how little employment, electricity and water is available, can these projects be considered great successes?

    Ditto that.
     
  10. Ed Edwards

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    Ed Edwards //The Construction projects ARE providing employment.
    Some construction projects ARE to restore the water
    distribution system.
    Some constructions projects ARE to restore the
    electrical system.

    Daisy: //Considering how little employment, electricity
    and water is available, can these projects be considered
    great successes?//

    In November a state wide ice storm destroyed service in
    Oklahoma for over 200,000 people. The first 90% of
    service was restored in under 20 hours. The second 9%
    was restored in under a week. The last 1% took three
    weeks to restore. Nobody was shooting at the
    constructions crews.

    Yes, these projects in Iraq can be considered great
    successes.
     
  11. Daisy

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    Three weeks vs four years and counting.
     
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