Terrorized by 'War on Terror'

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  1. poncho

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    How a Three-Word Mantra Has Undermined America

    By Zbigniew Brzezinski


    Sunday, March 25, 2007; Page B01


    The "war on terror" has created a culture of fear in America. The Bush administration's elevation of these three words into a national mantra since the horrific events of 9/11 has had a pernicious impact on American democracy, on America's psyche and on U.S. standing in the world. Using this phrase has actually undermined our ability to effectively confront the real challenges we face from fanatics who may use terrorism against us.


    The damage these three words have done -- a classic self-inflicted wound -- is infinitely greater than any wild dreams entertained by the fanatical perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks when they were plotting against us in distant Afghan caves. The phrase itself is meaningless. It defines neither a geographic context nor our presumed enemies. Terrorism is not an enemy but a technique of warfare -- political intimidation through the killing of unarmed non-combatants.



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    Such fear-mongering, reinforced by security entrepreneurs, the mass media and the entertainment industry, generates its own momentum. The terror entrepreneurs, usually described as experts on terrorism, are necessarily engaged in competition to justify their existence. Hence their task is to convince the public that it faces new threats. That puts a premium on the presentation of credible scenarios of ever-more-horrifying acts of violence, sometimes even with blueprints for their implementation.


    That America has become insecure and more paranoid is hardly debatable. A recent study reported that in 2003, Congress identified 160 sites as potentially important national targets for would-be terrorists. With lobbyists weighing in, by the end of that year the list had grown to 1,849; by the end of 2004, to 28,360; by 2005, to 77,769. The national database of possible targets now has some 300,000 items in it, including the Sears Tower in Chicago and an Illinois Apple and Pork Festival.


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    While I agree that the "War on Terror" is part of our "culture of fear". It is hardly something new. Before Islam and the War on Terror there was communism. Unfortunately for Bush his War on Terror has not worked nearly as well as Regan's. While Reagan was able to rally the American people and enforce the idea of American strength and superiority, Bush has only managed to have us looking around every corner for the boogie man.
     
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    I get a big kick out of so called intellectual elites deciding what the rest of us are afraid of.:laugh:
     
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    Oh sure, it's clear, we have nothing to fear from terrorists or Islamic radicals or thier supporters. In fact, we've never had to fear any of our enemies. None of them meant us any harm. We always brought it all on ourselves. It's always been a consipracy by our own government to trick us into giving up our freedoms.

    Baloney, friends, our enemies are real and numerous! Terrorists and Islamic radicals are high on the "armed and dangerous" list right now. Others are waiting to see what happens. They'll always be out there.

    Yes, the government always bears watching and instead of regulating ourselves we should always take the fight to our enemies. Government does like to regulate that which can be regulated. People want action. That's why we got the TSA. But, no, they didn't manufacturer the threat to justify the action. We were attacked - ruthlessly attacked - and we, through our government, responded.

    However, the more likely consipracy by which we could loose our freedoms is the one whereby politicians promise to take care of all our daily woes if only we'll empower them and give them the fruits of our labor. Many are ready to surrend themselves to those sweet sounding promises.
     
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    Nobody is saying that.

    Yeah, but thankfully it's all a leftist conspiracy. That's what Washington, Madison and Jefferson were really saying.

    Lucky for us though, our bi parisan policy of [FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]interventions without end[/FONT][FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif] will bring honor, respect, peace, goodness and prosperity the way [/FONT][FONT=Palatino, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]it always has in the past.

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    We've been giving the enemy the business since 1898, and business has been good! People choose to be regulated. Viva la Edward Bernay's!

    Governments just don't do that, never have, never will. It's unheard of in history. But, just out of curiosity "let's see what leading conservatives have to say:"

    Yep, keep your eye firmly planted on the socialists folks, nevermind the creeping fascism. You used the word conspiracy three times in 11 lines. Bravo.





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    I do tend to use it a lot when I respond to some of your postings, Poncho! It's not that I don't believe any of what you suggest is impossible - it's just that I don't believe most of it is reality.
     
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    Yeah, I know but I don't feel bad about it. Not when all these people believe the same as me. And more are being added to the list everyday.

    100 Senior Military, Intelligence, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/

    Around 130 Professors Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html

    Over 100 9/11 Survivors and Family Members Question the 9/11 Commission Report - http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

    Over 70 Entertainment and Media Professionals who Question the 9/11 Commission Report -
    http://patriotsquestion911.com/media.html

    Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth are constructing their site now - http://ae911truth.org/

    Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice - http://stj911.org/index.html

    Pilots for 9/11 Truth - www.pilotsfor911truth.org

    Group of scientists, engineers and other professionals - http://physics911.net/

    Many highly qualified legal scholars believe that the attacks may intentionally have been allowed to happen or even been actively aided and abetted by elements within the United States government:

    John Loftus (Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer; currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services). See http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/#Loftus

    Francis Boyle, PhD, LLD (Professor of International Law at the University of Illinois, Champaign; a leading practitioner and advocate of international law; Boyle was responsible for drafting the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention; Boyle served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and represented Bosnia- Herzegovina at the World Court. He holds a Doctor of Law Magna Cum Laude as well as a Ph.D. in Political Science, both from Harvard University). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Boyle

    Richard Falk (Professor Emeritus, International Law, Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University; in 2001 Falk served on the three-person UN Commission on Human Rights for the Palestine Territories, and previously, on the Independent International Commission on Kosovo). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Falk

    Burns H. Weston (Bessie Dutton Murray Distinguished Professor of Law Emeritus and Director, Center for Human Rights, University of Iowa; Fellow, World Academy of Art and Science. Honorary Editor, Board of Editors, American Journal of International Law). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Weston

    C. Peter Erlinder, former president of the National Lawyers Guild. See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Erlinder. and http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633.

    Mark Conrad (Assistant Professor of Criminal Justice at Troy University; associate General Counsel, National Association of Federal Agents; Retired Agent in Charge, Internal Affairs, U.S. Customs, responsible for the internal integrity and security for areas encompassing nine states and two foreign locations; former Federal Sky Marshall; 27-year U.S. Customs career). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Conrad

    Horst Ehmke, PhD (Professor of Law, University of Freiburg; former Minister of Justice (West Germany)). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Ehmke

    William G. Weaver, JD, PhD (Director of Academic Programs, Institute for Policy and Economic Development, University of Texas, El Paso, specializing in executive branch secrecy policy, governmental abuse, and law and bureaucracy; former U.S. Army Signals Intelligence officer; author of several books on law and political theory). See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Weaver

    Gerry Spence (famed trial attorney). See http://www.interlinkbooks.com/BooksN/New_Pearl_Harbor.html

    William Veale, Former Instructor of Criminal Trial Practice, Boalt Hall School of Law, University of California at Berkeley 11-year teaching career. Retired Chief Assistant Public Defender, Contra Costa County, California 31-year career. See http://patriotsquestion911.com/professors.html#Veale

    "When you grow up in the United States, there are some bedrock principles that require concerted effort to discard. One is the simplest: that our leaders are good and decent people whose efforts may occasionally warrant criticism but never because of malice or venality... But one grows up. ... And with the lawyer's training comes the reliance on evidence and the facts that persuade... After a lot of reading, thought, study, and commiseration, I have come to the conclusion that the attacks of 9/11 were, in their essence, an inside job perpetrated at the highest levels of the U S government." SOURCE
     
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    Conspiracies

    Nice job Poncho! You answered the what, where, when, and how but left out the why. So I'll provide that. The why is so the shadow government can line up all the duckies to usher in the NAU and the NWO. For more information on this go to www.nonorthamercanunion.com.

    The sovereignty of the United States is in jeopardy right now. Next month 100 Mexican trucking companies will be allowed to start crossing the border and operate in the U.S. without any oversight. A bill has been presented to stop this invasion. Call your state representatives ASAP and voice your opposition.

    When presented with matters of constitutional importance this is what George W. Bush told them: "G_____n the constitution. It's nothing but a piece of paper".

    The reason why George Bush and his warhawks started this illegal war and are desperately trying to prolong it even though the majority of the people in the US oppose it is so they can work quietly behind the scenes preparing the US for the NAU. The war is just a diversion for the people.

    There are those who are unsure about the ramifications of a NAU and wonder how will it affect them. Consider this: An NAU means open borders. Open borders means no national sovereignty. No national sovereignty means no nation. No country. And no country means no constituition and no "Bill of Rights". No constitution or "bill of rights means no freedom of speech, no freedom of the press, no freedom of religion, et. al.

    Are you outraged yet? Like it or not this is no conspiracy theory. IT IS FACT.

    The Patriot Act, Posse Comitatus Act, The Military Commisions Act, etc.,etc. were all passed overwhelmingly in the House and Senate that either deal with suspending our rights or giving our military and political leaders immunity from prosecution in the US have given George W. Bush dictatorial powers. All this was given to the "crazy man" George Bush in the name of "WAR ON TERROR".

    It still not to late to save our country. Check out the Consitution Party @ www.constitutionparty.com
     
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    Welcome aboard GLL! :)

    See? What'd I tell ya Dragoon, more being added everyday. ;)
     
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    Thanks Poncho. By the way I've heard of Bo Gritz but not Bo Britz. Who is he?
     
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    It is Gritz my mistake.
     
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    It's good to have something to compare against but don't expect a conversion from me! I try not to measure my beliefs by the numbers of others who agree or disagree.

    I've always been, and always plan to be, wary of government but I don't, and won't, attribute all that happens to the sole central reason you so frequently advance. I find some of your points interesting - once in a while - but, frankly, when reading most of it I quickly find reason to discount it all.
     
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    That was a nice list of lawyers and professors.
     
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    I respect your position Dragoon68. I think thats one of the great things about this country. The freedom to differ in a opinions. I hope in 2010 that we can still voice our opinions.
     
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    I've said that before on a bulletin board.

    But the year mentioned was 1987 ;)

    I made over 1,000,000$ working to assure you get to have
    your say.

    The fastest way to loose the war on terror is to
    surrender to the international irrational pseudo-muslim
    konspiracy (IIPMK) in Iraq.
     
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    Me too, GLL! Regardless the threat - internal or external - our nation may face, I hope God will grant us the wisdom, courage, and means to recognize it and defend against it. I do sense that we are headed for more trails and tribulations.
     
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    I try to measure my beliefs by all the available evidence. I understand where you're coming from though. There's just to much of that evidence to be able to ignore it all without having to quickly find a reason to do so. When I think back to when I first joined BB I have to laugh. I was told I was nuts to think there was a ideology called neoconservatism. I was a nut for saying America Canada and Mexico were to be merged into a North American Union. I was a nut because I didn't believe that invading Iraq would be a cakewalk like we were being told. I was a nut because I questioned the existance of those huge cave bunkers that "Al Qeada" formerly known as a CIA database of the Arab "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan were supposed to be living in. Remember that? Rumsfeld and the MSM talked of them for quite awhile, had cool computer graphics and everything.

    Well, guess what? Turns out the neocons were real and so is the NAU. Iraq has been anything but the promised cakewalk and there were no giant cave complexes in those Afghani mountains. I'm sure more things that I was called nuts for believing will be accepted for what they are shortly. I don't need to convert people Dragoon. The truth does that. All anybody can do is keep showing it until it can't be ignored any longer. Here's some more of it.
     
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    cospiracies

    You'll have to juggle my memory. What happened in 1987 to make you think our country was in grave danger?

    I can see your having fun dangling that 1,000,000.00 over our heads.

    Ditto!
     
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    Some are paranoid. I have fun.
    Don't knock it. Fun people live longer than
    paranoids (if the Lord tarries).

    I mentioned '1987' cause like 2010 you said is
    related to 2007 so 1987 is related to 1984.

    I have been posting on bullentin boards since 1984.
    What were you doing in 1984?
    I was paranoid and posting on bbs in 1984.

    BTW, it took from 1976 to 2000 to earn the MegaBuck.
     
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    Poncho you can take comfort in the fact that you are not a nut. There is a few who don't realize something is going on. There are some who suspect something is going on but don't know what. Then there is us. And there is quite of few of us out there. Frankly I'm surprised everyone doesn't know by now whats going on with all the information about it all over the internet. I suspect those that don't know are the ones that still prefer to get their news from the tv.
     

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