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Discussion in 'Politics' started by El_Guero, Jan 5, 2007.
Texas farmer has pig races next to a muslim mosque . . .
I reckon Fox news was a little quick . . .
The muslims bought land next to a pig farm . . . for building a mosque . . . then they complained to the pig farmer . . . and the _____ [fill in the blank] called the man a liar . . .
I guess they are a little nervous about being able to build on the land.
Story is here. His family has been on that land for 100 years and now he is supposed to hear the calls to prayer 5 x a day? Population in Katy, Texas is 13,000, btw and there are plenty of mosques in Houston, not far from there.
From what I've seen on the news, there seems to be some questions about the legality of building the mosque in the area. Apparently, the land butts up next to residential areas where commercial use is prohibited.
The neighborhood has formed a group to pursue the matter and get rid of the mosque, which is currently being run out of a house on the land. The neighbors are also very concerned about the traffic conditions on their streets since the mosque is in a residential area and muslims come and go to pray all day long.
The man on the farming property next to the Muslims claims that they told him he needed to sell his land to them and move. When they denied that allegation, he then organized the pig races on his property. The people have lived and farmed the land for some 150 years or so.
I can hardly blame them for being upset about all of this.
We have a mosque and some sort of Indian religious building a few miles from my house, in the rural area a little north of here. They are both on large plots of land surrounded by trees, so I don't think the neighbors are all that bothered. Besides, the road they are on is not strictly residential.
This has been on the news about every night for a couple weeks.
Know what I see a community driven by fear. Muslim does not autmatically equal terrorist. The muslims have agreed to the flood and drainage rules and have been willing to work with the community. They have offered samples of the auditory call to prayer to allay fears in the community. Baker was initially asked to move his cattle off THEIR land. HE is the one that overreacted and thought they told him to move. The article LE posted even says in the last paragraph that he NOW CONCEDES THEY ARE NOT AFTER HIS LAND, although he is still going to have the pig races otherwise he would look like he overreacted. Point blank- they legally purchased the land and they have the right to use the land. I don't care how many mosques are in Houston. What if your Baptist church couldn't build a new church in an adjoining small town because there were plenty of baptist churches in the nearby city? Oh, I forgot, Islam need to be outlawed for even law abiding American citizens because Amrican Chrisitians don't have enough faith in their own God. :BangHead:
Muslim Americans have the same rights as all other Americans. Get over it people and stop overreacting. Be diligent about observing Muslims around you if you feel scared about their supposed terrorism, but stop trying to infringe on their rights. They have a Constitutional right to practice their religion same as you.
Christians have a long history of insulting other religions. For example, eating ham on Passover.
Well, filmproducer, how about you offering to move in next door to a mosque where you will have to hear the wailing call to prayer five times a day over the loudspeaker? Then see if you still have your sanity after about 60 days straight. The point is, this is a rural community of farmers who have worked that land and raised their livestock for generations. This is not Saudi Arabia.
Honestly LE, it would not bother me one bit to live next to a mosque. As for the loudspeaker, the mosque should abide whatever noise ordinances that are in place for Katy. By offering auditory samples to those concerned citizens complaining, I believe they probably already are. The point is this is a rural area of America where every citizen enjoys the same rights. I don't care if you lived there 250 years or 2 days. The farmers are free to raise livestock, race pigs, whatever; and the muslims are free to worship how they see fit.
Well, see, there's the rub. Even if there are noise ordinances in place, if enough muslims move in to change the demographics and then change the noise ordinances. Just like in Hamtrack, Michigan.
And what about the people who have lived and owned property there for generations and their property values?
More on the story:
We use to see a very similar situation when northerners moved down here to the good old south. They would move here, buy a pretty little house in the country, and then complain about the smell coming from the dairy/farm next door. I would say to this Muslim the same thing I would say to those northerners. The farm, the chickens, the cows, the pigs, and their wonderful smells were here long before you moved in. So, if you don't like the smell, you can always go back where you came from. Not really on topic but I think the general idea is the same. :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Spoken like a true Southerner. Wait til the pig pickin & the fiddlin' start, lol. :laugh: Yee-Haa.
It's doubtful the muslims really mind the pig races, but I have to admire the farmers sense of humor. Leave it to a no nonsense Texas farmer to make his point in a very succinct and agricultural way.
I might suggest to him that he have his races when they are having worship services and amplify the noise from the crowd, and the pigs , of course.:thumbs:
And since your point illustrates what really was happening . . .
They knowingly bought land NEXT to a pig farm and then asked the pig farmer to move . . .
You aren't the one that suggested he have his races Friday night are ya'?
Maybe it would be real neighborly to invite the muslims to join the race. Of course, they would have to get on all fours to give the pigs a chance.
I wouldn't worry about this too much.
Someone's being an attention hog.
Last paragraph in the article from the link LE provided (proving why links are important)
He has to have the race now because he is embarrassed.
I would be embarrased if someone was going to build a temple to satan beside my land . . .
There was quite a story in the Dallas Morning News. One of the Muslims being interviewed about the pig races asked the reporter:
"Has no one told him that we don't hate pigs; we just don't eat them?" :laugh: