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Texas could turn Democrat in eight years, says Julian Castro

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  1. Alcott

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    The same state it was 45 or more years ago? Yeah, I reckon it would be.
     
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    Neither party is the champion of the "races", to the contrary of all the Democratic demagoguery.
     
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    So what? I believe very little of what you post, but like I said, so what?
     
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    1960 Lyndon Johnson on the ticket as VP candidate.

    1964 Lyndon Johnson on ticked as presidential candidate.

    1968 only God knows why.

    1975 Carter running as "born again Baptist"!
     
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    You can believe this. I grew up in Mississippi in the 50s and 60s, and saw black Americans treated in a manner that I knew was wrong when I was twelve years old, yet, the state and local governments, and for that matter the general populace, thought it normal. I saw things done I will not recount here, but surfice to say, I can spot a racist a mile away, and if there is a group that I have a remaining deep hatred of, it is them.

    Having said that, I am a Republican, and have been a member of the Constitution Party. I have only voted Democrat twice in twelve or thirteen elections. The radical left agenda of Obama and some of his Congressional allies using the race card has no connection to what I mentioned above. They are not related. Obama tries to play off distant memories of that past time, and has suceeded to some degree. Using race for political power is just as wrong one direction as the other.

    A good example of the point I am trying to make is what Bill said in the other thread. Bill does not have a racist bone in his body, and recognizes Obama using race to divide. The only hint of this mindset I have seen on this board is against the nation Israel.

    Why is it so hard for people to talk to others as human beings, without regard to how they look, where they come from or their denomination? It is hard to believe that although rare today, some people are still running around with this mentality some sixty years later.
     
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    No, it is well disputed along party lines. HISTORY shows that democrats were without question the party of bigotry...and still are. Just look at Obamacare, and their decision to unilaterally force people to violate their own religious convictions.

    You have yet to back up what you have said with facts: I have provided facts. Look at the voting record of the senate and house. Democrats=bigots. Case closed.


    As I said, that is ridiculous. Maybe you need to READ comments...the KKK campaigned AGAINST Ronald Reagan..

    The KKK has been, and is now, supporters of the democratic party. In fact, believe it or not, they were campaigning for Obama!

    http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2...gly-psychotically-supports-obama-2461588.html

    What lies. You were a republican like Hitler was a free market capitalist. The democrats have tried to twist history, but you cannot hide their history of hate and bigotry.

    FYI: NO true Christian, indwelled with the Holy Spirit of God, can support abortion...

    You are the one who has failed to show facts. All you have done is linked to a democrat conspiracy theory. The only thing I have called anyone is "liar", because, well, you are lying. Stop lying, and I will stop "calling names" (e.g. "calling things what they are").
     
  7. Crabtownboy

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    Proof please that this is now true. I give you quotes and sources. You give me your opinion. Please give me credible sources.


    Your opinion, no proof, no sources, no quotes.

    Proof please that this is now true. I give you quotes and sources. You give me your opinion. Please give me credible sources.





    The topic is the Nixon Southern Strategy and Texas moving to the Democratic column.

    Proof please that this is now true. I give you quotes and sources. You give me your opinion. Please give me credible sources.

    http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2...gly-psychotically-supports-obama-2461588.html

    Whoa, what a great source of unbiased news. Surely you can do better.

    Have you ever thought why the KKK might say this? Not for the reasons you hope unthinking people will reach. The see Obama as a means to recruit members to their ranks who hate Obama. WOW, not what you wanted discovered is it?



    More shrill statements. You can do better.


    As many has said, when you have no argument all names and try to insult. It pleases the uneducated, unthinking folk.



    Ah, poor baby. You give one source and it shows the KKK uses Obama to recruit racist to their camp.

    Try reading the following:

    There is a lot more. So the KKK saying they support Obama is not for reasons you allude to. Be honest Hav. you are smart enough to know you are beating a dead horse on this subject.
     
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    You have yet to provide any credible sources, or proof. Again, LOOK AT THE VOTING RECORD. The Dems opposed the Civil Rights act. They were the pro-slave party. These are historical facts. All you have given is conspiracy theories from liberal rags.

    As far as the religious convictions comment: just look at Hobby Lobby and Liberty University. They are both in court, because the hateful Obama administration is trying to FORCE them to pay for people's abortion. And if you don't already know that, you have no business discussing these topics. You need to go read a newspaper.

    No, I offer the actual, demonstrable record of the Democratic party. You are the one offering opinion.

    No, you give me conspiracy theories promoted by liberal sites... I gave you the actual voting record of the Democratic party, which is a record of bigotry.




    Texas gets more Republican every year. Every Hispanic that I know, is a Republican. A couple are former Democrats, that left the party because of its stance on forcing homosexual marriage on others, and abortion. Hispanics are by large percentage Christian and catholic, and oppose the goals of the democratic party. The only reason, nationwide, that the dems are winning hispanics, is the dems fear-mongering and propaganda.

    You have given me no credible sources. You have given me liberal rag conspiracy theories.
    Better than what you have provided.

    The KKK has stated why they support Obama. Obama supports abortion, and specifically Planned Parenthood, which is killing black babies at a far greater rate than white babies.



    Cannot do better than to simply point to the democrats voting record. They history speaks for itself.


    There is no insult here. It is simply a statement of fact. People indwelled with the Holy Spirit don't go around helping in the murder of children. Apparently you are the one who is uneducated, since you cannot understand such a simple Biblical concept,


    Yeah, try reading the whole page...

    "UPDATE: Forensic investigators have determined that the original story Sharmeka Moffitt’s gave to police to explain her burned body was completely false.."



    I am smart enough to recognize the silly, manipulative debating tactics of someone who does not have an argument (as in "C'mon, you are smart to recognize..."). Horrible

    You have nothing to provide but rhetoric. The KKK supports Obama for 1 reason: an Obama presidency means a lot more dead black babies!

    :tonofbricks:
     
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    I am speaking of the 21st Century ... current events. You are talking about the past centuries. You are talking 20th century and also at times 19th century. You are like a person saying the economy now is the fault of Hoover ... you need to start living in the now.

    The Republican Southern Strategy, that began under Nixon fundamentally switched the Republicans to the ideas of the old Democratic Party. Any reparable historian will agree with that. It is the way the Republicans won the South into their column and it has worked well for them up until this election.

     
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    No reputable historian believes in conspiracy theories. What you have stated is liberal, made up hogwash, that is meant to distract people from the actual voting record (you know, factual things...) of the Democratic party.

    And no, it wasn't some event that took place millions of years ago, in a galaxy far far away. There are still plenty of folk that were alive when the bigot democrats so strongly opposed the Civil Rights act...who so STRONGLY opposed black integration. Some of them aren't even that old. So no, it was not some far off event.

    And again, the "southern strategy" is nothing but propaganda. I saw, with my own eyes, the KKK with signs picketing against Reagan. The only thing that has changed, is that the White men at the top of the Democratic party (the Bankers and billionaires that supported Obama's campaign), have realized they can keep down the black population better by talking about "women's reproductive rights" (a.k.a. murder of black children)...The slave owner party has convinced black americans and latino americans, that the guy trying to help them is their enemy..
     
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    SOUTHERN Dems opposed the Civil Rights Act. The Dixiecrats were formed in 1948 as a faction of the Democratic Party that opposed integration of the races.

    "The Congressional Quarterly of June 26, 1964 recorded that in the
    Senate, only 69 percent of Democrats (46 for, 21 against) voted for
    the Civil Rights Act as compared to 82 percent of Republicans (27 for,
    6 against). All southern Democratic senators voted against the act.
    [...] In the House of Representatives, 61 percent of Democrats (152
    for, 96 against) voted for the Civil Rights Act; 92 of the 103
    Southern Democrats voted against it. Among Republicans, 80 percent
    (138 for, 34 against) voted for it."
     
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    You can say that until the cows come home, but facts are nasty things and do not agree with you.

    Nixonland: The Rise of a President and the Fracturing of America ...
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    The "dixiecrats" might have been formed then, but Democrats had been the anti-black party from before the Civil War!

    And your Southern/Northern theory doesn't hold as well as you'd like. 10 northern dems, also opposed the bill, as did the Democrat party as a whole. :tonofbricks:

    Dems were also the most outspoken against integration..Jim Crow Laws, the Southern Manifesto...all products of the Democratic party.
     
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    Yep facts are nasty things. And all the liberal commentators in the world won't change that. They have books about how the holocaust didn't happen too...those are just as fictional. (FYI, some of the sites you listed here, ADMIT that this is a "democratic theory" not demonstrable historical fact).

    The facts speak for themselves. Even right now, your bigot Democratic president is trying to force us to violate our own conscience, and participate in his killing of millions of children. THIS is demonstrable fact. And people such as yourself who support this butchering, are no better than the people who looked the other way while the holocaust was going on.
     
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    Show me a post where I said I support abortion!
     
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    Yes, 10 northern Dems opposed it -- 1 out of 46 northern Dem senators and 9 out of 154 Northern Dem House members.

    The original House version:
    Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
    Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

    The Senate version:
    Democratic Party: 46–21 (69–31%)
    Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)

    Since 63% of all Dems in House and Senate voted for the bill, how can you say the Democratic Party as a whole opposed it?
    :confused:




    Yes, southern Dems were most outspoken against integration; northern Dems not so much.
     
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    Because they let it be filibustered for 13 hours. By a Democrat hero, who at his time of death, very recently, was still in good standing.
     
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    This one. You said you support the Democrat party.

    http://www.democrats.org/democratic-national-platform#protecting-rights

    "Democrats will continue to stand up to Republican efforts to defund Planned Parenthood"

    "The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade"

    Don't want fleas? Don't lay down with dogs... :tonofbricks:
     
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    That does not mean I support abortion. It only means I fine the, at the moment, less offensive than the GOP and their war on the poor, the elderly, women, Hispanics, and just about every other group other than the rich. I am against abortion and I am also against make the poor poorer and in cutting funding that would help the living who need help. I am pro life to the point that I am against capital punishment ... for a variety of reasons. I expect you are pro death when it comes to capital punishment. But that has nothing to do with the topic. So, let's get back on the topic.

    Reagan and the Southern Strategy and the GOP switching places in the South by using racism to gather votes. How can you support a party that tries to divide the races:

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    There is no war on the poor and not even liberals believe that. It is just an excuse. Even if it were true, and its not even remotely true, (its just a political demonization to distort the truth and give a fale impression to the masses in order to gain sympathy for political purposes) to find that the party that supports the unadulterated abortion is less offensive is an excuse that can be seen through like a crystal lake.

    In other words, it is not even a good excuse and everyone knows it. Nothing honest about it.
     
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