The Age of The Gentiles

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  1. Whitedove

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    First off let me say hello and God Bless to everyone. I'm new to this forum the church I clean keeps me so busy I don't have much time for other activities. Someone at work made some strange statements and I could use some solid theological enlightenment. He stated that we are currently in the age of the gentiles, but after the rapture of the church takes place the age of the gentiles will be over and only those who are Jews will be saved during the time of the tribulation. This man says that God will refuse to allow gentiles to call on God, repent, and be saved during that time. This can't possibly be true. My KJV bible says that God would have all men to be saved and that he is not willing to allow any to perish. Any scriptural input on this would greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Wendy
     
  2. Jeep Dragon

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    First off, disproving a negative is next to impossible. Put the burden of proof on him to Scriptually prove that only Jews can be saved during the tribulation. Just as a quick response, I scaned Revelation chapter 2 on the angels of the seven churches. I'm assuming that not all seven churches are full of nothing but Jews.

    I don't see anywhere in context of Revelation or in the prophecies of Daniel where the Jews are recognized or specified. More input by others would be helpful.
     
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    Thank you for all the replies. This really helps.
    Wendy
     
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    Whitedove: //This man says that God will refuse
    to allow gentiles to call on God, repent, and
    be saved during that time.//

    The statement is incorrect. God will allow gentiles
    to call on God, repent, and be saved during
    the Tribulation Period.

    HOWEVER, i suspect fewer than 10,000 will
    take advantage of it. Come on, if one can't 'call
    on God, repent, and be saved' during the easy times
    how will they do it in the hard time?

    I also think the actual Tribulation gentile saints will
    ALL be stillborn saints. Stillborn saints are those who
    are executed as a result of their confession leading
    to salvation.

    Rev 9:20-21 (KJV1611 Edition):
    And the rest of the men which were not killed
    by these plagues, yet repented not of the works
    of their hands
    , that they should not worship deuils,
    and idoles of golde, and siluer, and brasse,
    and stone, and of wood, which neither can see,
    nor heare, nor walke:
    21 Neither repented they of their murders,
    nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication,
    nor of their thefts.

    (also note that "the favorite sins of the Tribulation Period"
    are fairly popular right now :( )
     
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    Thank you for all the good information. I'm praying that God will open the door for me to speak to him about this. If he is telling this to others if they are unsaved and miss the rapture they may feel there is no hope left for them.
    Thanks Again
     
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    Are you saying that people will sacrifice animals during the MK? Why? What exactly is to be restored? The old temple and old testament ways or the whole world to prefall conditions? Wasn't Jesus the ultimate sacrifice?
     
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    Hello and welcome, Wendy,

    Ed Edwards is what we call a dispensationalist, and that is the eschatological view that your co-worker also holds. Ed argues that gentiles will be able to be saved during the tribulation. But in my first exposure to dispy thought, my pastor taught exactly what your co-worker believes--that after the rapture, it's too late for any gentile to be saved.

    It's obvious that all dispys do not speak with one voice.

    I also believe that gentiles will be saved during the tribulation, but mainly that's because I do not buy the idea of a pre-trib rapture. But that's been argued in other threads, so no need to start a debate here.
     
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    I don't think he is saying that there will be sacrifices during the MK, to the best of my knowlege this will be done sometime during the first 3 1/2 years of the tribulation. Also this will be done by the nation of Israel. They will rebuild the Temple and offer animal sacrifices. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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