The American Revolution

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  1. KenH

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    I have been watching the series on the American Revolution on the History Channel on Sunday nights. The first five episodes have been really good. I think there are eight episodes left.
     
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    I've enjoyed watching this series too.

    Having been born close to Independence Hall, Washington's Crossing, and Valley Forge, I've always been interested in this subject.

    (BTW, The man for whom Nashville TN is named--Rev. War hero Gen. Francis Nash of NC--is buried only about 10 miles from my hometown.....in a Mennonite Church cemetery, of all places.)
     
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    Iwish I had the History channel!
     
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    Valley Forge National Park is a favorite place of mine to take the family for a day of walking. We usually hike the nature trail. We also like to have a contest to see who can run up to the top of the steep brick wall outside the entrance of the Welcome Center. Alot harder than it looks! Then we slide back down.

    http://www.bridgeandtunnelclub.com/bigmap/outoftown/pennsylvania/philadelphia/valleyforge/grounds/welcomecenter.jpg

    I believe the series on the History Channel is available at the public library.

    Have any of you seen The Crossing starring Jeff Daniels as Washington? It's okay, but I do not believe that some of the language would be heard coming from George Washington.
     
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    The last time that I was at Valley Forge was back in September, 2002.

    The thing that fascinated me then was how that the deer would practically come right up to your car's windows as you would slowly drive through portions of the park.

    (I guess that these deer knew that they were protected from being hunted while on the grounds of a National Memorial.) :thumbs:
     
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    It's possible that your local library has it or will have it.
     
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    I have tremendous admiration for George Washington and his role in giving birth and nurturance to our nation and Constitution, but he was known to be able to employ swear words quite ably and had a temper that he had to keep reined in.
     
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    I have the same feelings about George Washington myself FTR, guess that makes you and I subversives in America today.
     
  9. Ralph III

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    I have been unable to see the History Channels series on Washington and the Revolutionary War. The History Channel seems to exhibit a bias(liberal) at times, on certain subjects, so you often have to weed through the facts. Several authors/historians note the Hollywood fiction in regards to the personal character of George Washington, as portrayed in "The Crossing".

    Yes he had a controlled temper, like most of us, but as I understand he deplored cursing! During the Revolutionary War, he felt such acts may cause their prayers to go unanswered or even cause disfavor because of such. So He and Congress quite regularly sent out "general orders" directly addressing these things. In addition to encouraging/requiring his officers and men to faithfully attend prayer services. Serving as evermore the Leader he required such example of himself and staff.


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    THERE ARE MANY OTHER SUCH EXAMPLES OF ORDERS DURING THE INDEPENDENCE WAR. BUT SUCH REPERSENTS HIS CHARACTER LONG BEFORE AND AFTER.
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    As I understand there is only one instance, during his 40 year military career, that history says he possibly cursed. This occurred at the Battle of Monmouth, 1778. In which he reprimanded General Charles Lee for cowardice actions and not attacking the British. General Charles Scott, when asked if Washington had ever cursed, referenced this one instance. Which he claimed, was necessary and quite appealing given the circumstance.

    This is the strongest instance as I understand, but still very questionable in validity. Washington was a man who commanded respect, even among his foes, because of his character.

    Abigail Adams said it best, and was a typical view of George Washington,
     
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    That puts me in excellent company, poncho.
     
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    FTR

    If a wild animal comes up to your car - it is because tourists have fed it. Wild animals are normally spooky. If you want to see the way deer normally behave - go to SA (hollywood park, castle hills, etc) and drive around the neighborhoods till you see deer. They won't stay around long. :thumbs:

    Other than that - George was a good leader and known for great things as well as some not so good.

    God bless.


     
  12. KenH

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    Interesting. Liberals think it has a bias(conservative) at times, on certain subjects.

    So I guess it must be pretty balanced. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Huh?

    Agreed, but his good FAR outweighs his not so good.
     
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    I have been watching The Revolution, too. I am a Rev War History buff.

    We are leaving tomorrow at about 6 a.m. for vacation--Philadelphia, Valley Forge, Lancaster, and Gettysburg.

    My husband and I both had an ancestor who was at Valley Forge. Can't wait to see it for the first time!

    See you all in a week!
     
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    Maybe wild animals (deer) back there are tame, but in Texas - deer don't stick around waiting to be fed by your car, unless they have been fed some . . . Been hunting in Texas. Even crossed into the Federal park - the deer did not run, but they weren't too interested in being hand fed.

    In my experience, wild animals are usually wild and not bambi or thumper.

    At least that has been my experience.

    Did I clear that up?

    ;)


     
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    But, if they are THAT spoiled and they are over 90 lbs for spikes - I need to fill a freezer . . .

    ;)
     
  17. Ralph III

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    Hello El_Guero.
    I have hunted all my life and your point is generally correct, but not fully, in regards to deer being frightful of humans. Naturally deer are at a minimum weary of humans or other big game. Not necessarily scared or fretful. The difference depends on the pressure put upon them by humans, such as with hunting.

    However go to a large National Park or sanctuary and you can note a significant difference in character. A prime example is Cades Cove outside of Gatlinburg, Tennessee. This is a historical community, with valley's surrounded by Mountains. You can ride around the entire valley sightseeing wild deer and bear.

    The deer are at complete ease and will come within a few yards of you, while grazing etc. Human feeding and harassment are strictly forbidden. Which is observed well by the visitors and noted no animals approach to be fed. They just see you as non-threat but do maintain a short distance.

    It just always stuns me to see this. We just visited again this past week and I got some nice close up pics of a few good bucks. In velvet of course. We also got some pics of a black bear. You'll note game management usually tries to harass or scare predatory animals when they wonder into communities. This way they learn to be scared of humans and to flee. If such does not work they will typically re-locate them to a remote area.

    Have a good one.
     
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    On our base deer will walk around the buildings and cross the roads in front of cars all of the time. It is a rare day not to see a herd feeding next to the road. They are not allowed to be fed, but they become used to the cars. Hunting is even allowed on the base once a year in certain places, but the deer still remain relatively tame. They know where the hunters are going to be and they stay in the front part of the base where there are no hunters.

    Turkey and geese are the same way. One deer was born twenty feet from our office building.
     
  19. Ralph III

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    Hello Ken H.
    Well, you can see it as you wish but facts are facts. Once again, as I stated you have to at times weed through the facts as given on certain subjects.

    The History Channel is one of my favorite channels and I enjoy most of what it offers. However on certain things, such as Christianity, their programing often casts a poor light. Most often by trying to undermine historical facts or by trying to cast doubts on the Bible. Such also seems to coincide with religious holidays, hmm!
    Yet, media shows on darwinism is held in high esteem, as concretely factual, and with all scietists in complete agreement. None of which is true! As much of evolution was proven false long ago. Most easily noted in regards to the fossil record which was it's concrete Pillar, ha! In addition, there are many scientists who completley disagree, and this has always been the case. But you don't get that type programming! Of course all of this is another subject.

    If you like, you can go to Media Research Center to get stats on liberal, or other, bias within the media. They can give you hard stats on certain subjects. EX) How the "Passion of Christ" was portrayed and promoted(or not), -VS- How the "Davinci Code" was portrayed and promoted etc.

    Here is a topic exactly in regards to the "The Crossing". I cannot get the specific page to pull up so go to http://www.mediaresearch.org/ and do a Search of MRC(top left). Type in "History Channel" and designate under Bozell's Colums! It will be the second topic dated 1/18/2000. You might find it interesting.


    Have a good one. Ralph:wavey:
     
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  20. KenH

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    Actually, we are all just stating our opinions. It's just that some people think that their opinion makes a fact. I have news for them(be it Brent Bozell or whomever): it doesn't. :smilewinkgrin:
     

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