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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Refreshed, May 13, 2003.

  1. Anti-Alexandrian

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    NO!! Anybody can show verses that do match,all counterfeits must mimic the standard in order to pass off as legit;but what about the ones that don't???
     
  2. Pastor Larry

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    NO!! Anybody can show verses that do match,all counterfeits must mimic the standard in order to pass off as legit;but what about the ones that don't??? </font>[/QUOTE]Read your post. You said "doctrines" were left out; now you want to talk about verses. When you say "doctrines are omitted" you are wrong, plain and simple. There is no doctrine left out of a modern version.

    When it comes to verses, there is very good reason to believe that the KJV takes its translation from a number of inferior manuscripts into which words and phrases were added, thereby placing the KJV in the unenviable spot of violating Rev 22:21. The pure words of God are those which have not been added or deleted. Unless you possess the originals, you have no way to prove that the KJV did not add words. Until then, we must assume that it did.
     
  3. Pioneer

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    It doesn't take rocket science to realize that when modern versions leave out the words "first born" that they are showing their support of the Catholic doctrine that Mary was celebate all of her life even after Jesus was born. The Catholic church denies that Mary had other children and modern versions give support to that heresy.
     
  4. Archangel7

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    Sorry, but the modern versions cannot be accused of "showing their support of the Catholic doctrine" as you claim because they clearly teach that Jesus was Mary's "firstborn" -- just like the KJV.

    And she brought forth her FIRSTBORN SON, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. (Lk. 2:7, KJV)

    And she gave birth to her FIRSTBORN SON and wrapped him in swaddling cloths and laid him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn. (Lk. 2:7, ESV)

    And she gave birth to her FIRSTBORN SON; and she wrapped Him in cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (Lk. 2:7, NASB)

    And she gave birth to her FIRSTBORN SON and wrapped him in bands of cloth, and laid him in a manger, because there was no place for them in the inn. (Lk. 2:7, NRSV)

    and she gave birth to her FIRSTBORN, A SON. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (Lk. 2:7, NIV)

    And she brought forth her FIRSTBORN SON, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. (Lk. 2:7, NKJV)
     
  5. neal4christ

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    MVs do not give support to the idea that Mary was a perpetual virgin, that is a lie that you have just espoused. Archangel answered it quite nicely, and there are other passages that speak of Jesus' brothers. I can't believe you would even try that. (Also, my NKJV reads firstborn at the place in question. I guess you have no argument against it then.)

    Neal
     
  6. Pioneer

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    I guess you can't read. The passage in question was Matthew 1:25.
     
  7. neal4christ

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    I guess you can't understand that the Word of God is more than Matthew 1:25. :rolleyes:

    I guess you also can't read. What of my NKJV that says 'firstborn' in Matt. 1:25?

    Neal
     
  8. Archangel7

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    Think this through. If there was some great Catholic conspiracy to remove all references to Jesus as being the "firstborn son" of Mary, why would the alleged conspirators not also change verses like Lk. 2:7 and Mk. 6:3 which *clearly* teach that Mary gave birth to more than one child?
     
  9. Alcott

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    There is one perfect Church - the body of Christ.


    Identify this church...Where is it located [address]? What is its budget? What was the last business decision it made?

    There is one perfect Pope - the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Cite the scripture which says Jesus Christ is "Pope." And exactly what does he do in this capacity? Have you seen his signed signature, or a signed order from him?

    Your usage of the word 'asinine' evidently demonstrates your lack of respect for Christ and His Church.

    That's an asinine conclusion of yours.
     
  10. Japheth

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    Looks like someone has learned a new word :rolleyes:
     
  11. Alcott

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  12. TomVols

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    Okay, we're done. Usual claptrap has taken over. Reprise the theme song and roll the credits...
     
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