In the thread Where does believing faith come from part 3 the following conversation ensued: Amy.G's first question--"[O]n what basis does God choose one person over another [if His choice is not random]?"--is valid and needs elaboration, especially in these debates about the logical order of regeneration and faith. Amy.G then proceeded to follow up on the inquiry: "It was said that God does not choose randomly who [sic] He will save. So there must be a reason that He chooses to save one and passes over another. What is that reason? If there is no reason or basis for His choices, then He chooses randomly." The portions in bold above indeed are true and important to understand. I know of noone here who believes that God does anything randomly. With an infinite, omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent God, everything He does has a purpose and a reason. The questions then are what is the reason, and is this reason revealed or explained to us? I assume that we all believe that the 66 books of the canon are the inerrant, inspired, and infallible Word of God. We believe in the verbal, plenary inspiration of the Scriptures and that the Bible is the sole authority for all matters of faith and practice. This also means that the Bible is the final revelation of God that He has revealed to us. Whatever He has revealed, we believe as truth regardless of whether we fully understand it. If we try to understand God apart from His revelation, we must conceed that such arguments are mere speculative rather than authoritative. Accordingly, does the Bible then reveal or explain to us God's reasons that form the basis of His election? Here are a few passages that state God's basis for choices: The Bible has aught to say that God has a purpose in the things that He does and as the basis for His choices: for His pleasure, for His glory, for His will. Does the Bible explain to us (humans) in a humanistic logic why what He does and chooses brings Him pleasure? I cannot find much, if anything. Is it necessary for God to explain to us His actions and choices in a way that will satisfy our human rationale? He is God and we are not. He is a separate agent. It is not essential for us to understand the rationale for God's choices to know that He does have a rationale. Our lack of a Scriptural human rationale for God's actions and choices does not relegate them to randomness.