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The best-laid plans of go astray...

Discussion in '2006 Archive' started by The Galatian, Jul 14, 2006.

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  1. The Galatian

    The Galatian New Member

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    A judge ruled that Tom DeLay remains a resident of Texas and must be on the GOP ballot in November.

    DeLay, after winning the nomination, claimed that he had moved to Virginia (in spite of still keeping and staying at his Texas home). If he had his way, the local GOP would have been able to pick another candidate to run in his place.

    It is thought that DeLay ran in the primary to make sure none of the GOP critics of his behavior would take his place in Congress. If he had been declared ineligible, GOP leaders favorable to DeLay could then have picked a candidate to his liking.

    No such luck. Even an appeal with put any appointed replacement at severe disadvantage, and more legal battles will remind voters why the GOP doesn't want to run on its record.
     
    #1 The Galatian, Jul 14, 2006
  2. hill

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    A horrible decision by yet another liberal judge.
     
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  3. Daisy

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    How do you know the judge is liberal? Theoretically, judges put aside their political affiliations and judge on the merits of the case - are you saying that a conservative judge would be unable to render the obvious fair decision, so it must have been a liberal?
     
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  4. hill

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    Yes, theoretically.
    It was a radical left wing judge who's only thought was to stop a Republican victory. Delay himself. among many others, stated that. It was unpresidented but not uncharacteristic of the radical leftists in robes.
     
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  5. Magnetic Poles

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    So were the Republican state legislators in Texas "liberal" for redrawing the congressional districts to insure that Democrats have very little chance of winning them?
     
    #5 Magnetic Poles, Jul 15, 2006
  6. Revmitchell

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    And we know that the dems never do that of course.:thumbs:
     
    #6 Revmitchell, Jul 15, 2006
  7. Terry_Herrington

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    You didn't answer the question. It does not matter what the democrats would do as it could be equally wrong. Was it right for the republicans to do what they did in Texas.
     
    #7 Terry_Herrington, Jul 15, 2006
  8. Daisy

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    I thought they had never done it on a non-census year and that that was what made this one unprecedented - that the redistricting was not done because of a population shift, recount or court-order, but purely because they could politically.

    Well, Delay would claim that, wouldn't he? How was this unprecedented? Who was the judge appointed by - or was he elected?
     
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  9. Revmitchell

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    The dems sued over this issue. The Texas Supreme court ruled that it was appropriate to redraw the districts as they did. The main reason for the ruling is that in every case in its history who ever has been in charge has done so without fail.

    The Supreme Court in Texas did rule in the favor of the dems on the issue of discrimination against the hispanics in one district. But that is not to say that the discrimination intentionally targeted hispanics.
     
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  10. Daisy

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    I think most assumed that the discrimination intentionally targeted Democrats, who unfortunately for the Republicans happened to be Hispanic.

    Do you have a source for the ruling itself by any chance? Or the name of the case? (**feeling lazy on a summer day**)
     
    #10 Daisy, Jul 15, 2006
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    That's politics, Terry. There are consequences to losing elections.

    It was not only right. It was fair and legal.
     
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    carpro Well-Known Member
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    Since DeLay's name is already on the ballot, wouldn't it be funny if he went ahead and ran and was re-elected?:smilewinkgrin:
     
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  13. KenH

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    The GOP mess in this Congressional district could provide an opening for the Libertarian candidate:

    www.smither4congress.com
     
    #13 KenH, Jul 15, 2006
  14. The Galatian

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    DeLay and the Republicans are furious. The plan was to knock out the chances of any reform-minded Republican, without jeopardizing the chances of losing the district to the democrats.

    A little end-run around democracy; DeLay didn't trust his constituents to make the right choice, so he tried to "fix" it so the local GOP bigwigs would do it for them.

    And the law of unintended consequences intervened. The judge, BTW, was appointed by George W. Bush. Doesn't matter. Sometimes the law is what it is.

    And now the republicans in Texas' 22nd district are going to have to run on their record, something they desperately want to avoid.

    And carpro might have something there. The guys supporting DeLay are not the sort that would be offended by a candidate with a criminal record. Some of them might even like him better.
     
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  15. Revmitchell

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    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13592999/
     
    #15 Revmitchell, Jul 15, 2006
  16. Daisy

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    Thank you, Revm.
     
    #16 Daisy, Jul 15, 2006
  17. Terry_Herrington

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    Yes, it is the consequences of losing the election, but it was not right by any stretch of the imagination, legal otherwise !
     
    #17 Terry_Herrington, Jul 16, 2006
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