The Bible Code

I have no use for it. I am content reading and studying the clear message of the Gospel.


God Bless.

 

It is a mathematical theory that has been through 3 levels of peer review without demonstrating that it is in error. The math theory is really very "simple" it guarantees randomization of the data that it is applied to. For that reason - the "organization" found in some of the grids that it produces "is not expected". For example, it was applied to the Hebrew version of "War and Peace" and found to TRULY randomize the document. Some names are found STILL in some of the grids of that test case BUT no related demographic or biographic information is ALSO produced on those pages for that SAME name.

That's the "easy part".

The problem is that some people want to use it to predict the future and the mathmatician that came up with it - refuses to accept that as a valid use of it.

In Christ,

Bob

 

I hope no one takes what I said the wrong way. I just don't see the point in searching God's Word for encoded hidden mysteries (whether real or fabricated), when a message so much more important was provided to us by God, in a clear language that we can understand.

 

Prov.25
[2] It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

 

Computer algorythms are wonderful tools, and they don't know or understand the difference in the input data. So you can run one of those algorythms an any text and find hidden words and phrases.

There are many secret messages in the Constitution of the United States for example.

 

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/

 

In my opinion, the best website on Bible codes is:
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/torah.html

 

I've studies Bible code for several years, and don't for one minute believe it. God wrote His word to us for us to read it, not so He could hide it from us. It's nothing different then anyother fortune telling method, might as well read nosterdamus(sp?)
A few facts, one is they also found the saem things in other books, did God encode other books too?
Two, they had to actually change some of what the bible says to get some of their fortune telling out of it.
And, it's not the BIBLE, but the Torah they use.

 

We discussed this at length a few months ago. I consider it all bunk.

Scientific Refutation of Bible Codes... Click here.

 

Amen, Sibling Christ -- Preach it!

 

hardly... a couple of "scientific" refutations of specific individual bible codes on some guys personal web site does not refute bible codes in general.

here is scientific proof for...

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/9

 

Uh, did you even read through it? Do you know Brendan McKay is not just "some guy" with a personal website?

Why don't you find me something wrong with his site, if you think it's not valid.

 

#1. So far - none of the detractors of the Bible Code have themselves passed the same triple levels of "peer review" that the Bible Code itself has passed.

#2. So far - none of the detractors has been able to show that the "randomizing proof" accepted in those peer reviews - is invalid. In terms of showing a mathematical proof.

#3. The Torah - is in fact the first 5 books of the Bible in Hebrew.

#4. The randomizing process applied to books such as "War and Peace" does NOT yield the SAME degree of biographic convergence as has been shown for the Bible. This has been pointed out repeatedly.

In Christ,

Bob

 

This site contains neither science
nor proof. I would recognize either
or both, if i saw them.

3Angels Mom: "I found a movie in the cheapo bin at WallyWorld the other day called 'The Omega Code' and got it, well firstly because it was cheap, and DVD's aren't usually cheap and secondly because it looked interesting."

THE OMEGA CODE was a hoot
The Antichrist did what the bible code
said which was exactly what reading the
Bible straightforward said he would do
Gotta love such sarcasm by the movie
producers

 

#1. So far - none of the detractors of the Bible Code have themselves passed the same triple levels of "peer review" that the Bible Code itself has passed.

#2. So far - none of the detractors has been able to show that the "randomizing proof" accepted in those peer reviews - is invalid. In terms of showing a mathematical proof.

#3. The Torah - is in fact the first 5 books of the Bible in Hebrew.

#4. The randomizing process applied to books such as "War and Peace" does NOT yield the SAME degree of biographic convergence as has been shown for the Bible. This has been pointed out repeatedly.

In Christ,

Bob </font>[/QUOTE]If you like to believe satan'e lie, then by all means do so. I'll take God true words, written plainly for all His people to seee and read. My God is not a computer,as the prponets of the Bible codes have said He would have to be to write the code.
They do not use the Bible, but O.T. only, they have never used the N.T., therefore it is not the Bible code.

 

Experts Opinions on the Bible Codes (Click Here)

Mathematicians' Statement on the Bible Codes

We are making this statement concerning what have been called "Bible codes" or "Torah codes". We recognize that many sincere people take this phenomenon seriously, which compels us to speak out on the basis of what our mathematical training tells us about the evidence claimed for this alleged phenomenon.

There is a common belief in the general community to the effect that many mathematicians, statisticians, and other scientists consider the claims to be credible. This belief is incorrect. On the contrary, the almost unanimous opinion of those in the scientific world who have studied the question is that the theory is without foundation. The signatories to this letter have themselves examined the evidence and found it entirely unconvincing.

We refer in particular to the paper Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis, published in Statistical Science in 1994. This experiment suffers from major problems concerning both its execution and the interpretation of its conclusions. Even without these concerns, we would not take such extraordinary claims seriously without a vastly more systematic and thorough investigation. No such investigation has been carried out, nor has the work so far established a prima facie case. In addition, word clusters such as mentioned in Witztum's and Drosnin's books and the so called messianic codes are an uncontrolled phenomenon and similar clusters will be found in any text of similar length. All claims of incredible probabilities for such clusters are bogus, since they are computed contrary to standard rules of probability and statistics.

Among the signatories below are some who believe that the Torah was divinely written. We see no conflict between that belief and the opinion we have expressed above.

Signatures
Robert E. L. Aldred
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Otago
New Zealand.
PhD. Melbourne University, 1987
[email protected]
Dror Bar-Natan
Senior Lecturer in Mathematics
The Hebrew University
Jerusalem, Israel.
PhD, Princeton 1991
[email protected]
http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~drorbn
Jay H. Beder
Associate Professor of Mathematical Sciences
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Milwaukee, WI, USA.
PhD, The George Washington University 1981
[email protected]
http://www.uwm.edu/~beder/
Valentina M. Borok
Emeritus Professor of Mathematics
Kharkov State University
Kharkov, Ukraine.
PhD, Moscow State University 1957
[email protected]
Robert Brooks
Professor of Mathematics
Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
Haifa, Israel.
PhD, Harvard University 1977
[email protected]
Mark Burgin
Visiting Scholar in Mathematics
UCLA
Los Angeles, CA, USA.
PhD, Moscow State University 1971
[email protected]
George M. Butler
Professor of Mathematics
Louisiana Tech University
Ruston, LA, USA.
PhD, Oklahoma State University, 1968
[email protected]
http://www.math.latech.edu
Gary A. Chase
Senior Research Biostatistician
Henry Ford Health System
Detroit, MI, USA.
Adjunct Professor of Biomathematics and Biostatistics
Georgetown University
PhD, Johns Hopkins 1970
[email protected]
E. B. Davies
Professor of Mathematics
King's College, University of London
London, England.
Fellow of the Royal Society
D. Phil., University of Oxford 1968
[email protected]
Percy Deift
Professor of Mathematics
The Courant Institute, NYU
New York, NY, USA.
PhD, Princeton 1976
[email protected]
Persi Diaconis
David Duncan Professor of Physical Sciences
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY, USA.
Member, U.S. National Academy of Sciences
PhD, Harvard 1974
Laurence S. Freedman
Professor of Statistics
Bar Ilan University
Ramat Gan, Israel.
[email protected]
Fritz Gesztesy
L. M. DeFoe Professor of Mathematics
University of Missouri
Columbia, MO, USA.
PhD, University of Graz 1976
[email protected]
http://www.math.missouri.edu/people/faculty/fgesztesypt.html
Sheldon Goldstein
Professor of Mathematics
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ, USA.
PhD, Yeshiva University 1974
[email protected]
Lawrence F. Gray
Professor of Mathematics
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis, MN, USA.
PhD, Cornell University 1977
[email protected]
Rami Grossberg
Associate Professor of Mathematics
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA, USA.
PhD, Hebrew University 1986
[email protected]
Lee O. Hagglund
Professor of Mathematics
Wofford College
Spartanburg, S.C. USA
Ph.D., Duke 1972
[email protected]
A. Michael Hasofer
Emeritus Professor of Statistics
University of New South Wales
Sydney, NSW, Australia.
PhD, University of Tasmania 1964
[email protected]
Tim Hesterberg
Research Scientist
MathSoft/Statistical Sciences
Seattle, WA, USA.
PhD, Stanford, 1988
[email protected]
Peter Hines
Programmer
University of Wales
Bangor, Wales.
PhD, University of Wales, 1997
Svetlana Jitomirskaya
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of California Irvine
Irvine, CA, USA.
PhD, Moscow State University 1991
[email protected]
Gil Kalai
Professor of Mathematics
The Hebrew University
Jerusalem, Israel.
PhD, Hebrew University 1983
[email protected]
Fima Klebaner
Associate Professor of Mathematics and Statistics
University of Melbourne
Parkville, Victoria, Australia
PhD, Melbourne University 1983
David Klein
Professor of Mathematics
California State University
Northridge, CA, USA.
PhD, Cornell 1981
Richard N. Lane
President
Lane, Westly Inc.
Ph.D., Caltech, 1968
[email protected]
http://frontpage.home.net/richlanephd/
Joel Lebowitz
George William Hill Professor of Mathematics and Physics
Rutgers University
New Brunswick, NJ, USA.
Member, U.S. National Academy of Sciences
PhD, Syracuse University 1956
[email protected]
Nati Linial
Professor of Computer Science,
The Hebrew University
Jerusalem, Israel.
PhD, Hebrew University 1978
Gary Lorden
Professor of Mathematics
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, CA, USA.
PhD, Cornell 1966
Brendan McKay
Professor of Computer Science
Australian National University
Canberra, ACT, Australia.
Fellow of the Australian Academy of Science
PhD, Melbourne University 1980
[email protected]
http://cs.anu.edu.au/~bdm/dilugim/
Tom Metzger
Professor of Mathematics
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA, USA.
PhD, Purdue
Aaron Meyerowitz
Associate Professor of Mathematics
Florida Atlantic University
Boca Raton, FL, USA.
PhD, Colorado State University 1984
[email protected]
Stephen D. Miller
Assistant Professor of Mathematics
Yale University
New Haven, CT, USA.
PhD, Princeton 1997
[email protected]
http://www.math.yale.edu/users/steve
Paul Nevai
Professor of Mathematics
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio, USA.
Ph.D. 1973, Academy of Sciences, Budapest
[email protected]
http://www.math.ohio-state.edu/~nevai/
Amos Nevo
Department of Mathematics
Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
Haifa, Israel.
PhD, Hebrew University 1992
Eli Passow
Professor of Mathematics
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA 19122
Ph.D., Yeshiva University, 1966
[email protected]
John Allen Paulos
Professor of Mathematics
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA, USA.
PhD, University of Wisconsin, 1974
[email protected]
http://www.math.temple.edu/~paulos
Yehuda Pinchover
Assoicate Professor Mathematics
Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
Haifa, Israel.
PhD, Hebrew University 1986
[email protected]
Alexander Pruss
Department of Philosophy
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA, USA.
PhD, Univ. British Columbia 1996
[email protected]
http://www.pitt.edu/~pruss
Maurice Rojas
Assistant Professor of Mathematics
City University of Hong Kong
Hong Kong, China.
PhD, Berkeley 1995
Mary Beth Ruskai
Professor of Mathematics
University of Massachusetts Lowell
Lowell, MA, USA.
PhD, Univ. of Wisconsin 1969
Jeremy Schiff
Senior Lecturer, Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science
Bar-Ilan University
Ramat Gan, Israel.
PhD, Columbia University NY 1991
[email protected]
Gideon Schwarz
Professor of Statistics
The Hebrew University
Jerusalem, Israel.
PhD, Columbia University 1961
[email protected]
Senya Shlosman
Professor of Mathematics
University of California Irvine
Irvine, CA, USA.
PhD, Steklov Institute of Mathematics, Leningrad 1977
[email protected]
Barry Simon
IBM Professor of Mathematics and Theoretical Physics and Executive Officer for Mathematics
California Institute of Technology
Pasadena, CA, USA.
Member, Austrian Academy of Sciences
PhD, Princeton 1970
D. Sc. h. c., Technion, 1999
[email protected]
http://math.caltech.edu/people/simon.html
http://wopr.com/biblecodes/
Martha Simon
Lecturer in Mathematics
California State University
Northridge, CA, USA.
PhD, Princeton 1974
J. Laurie Snell
Professor of Mathematics Emeritus
Dartmouth College
Hanover, NH, USA.
PhD, University of Illinois 1951
[email protected]
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance
Terry Speed
Professor of Statistics
University of California
Berkeley, CA, USA.
PhD, Monash University 1969
[email protected]
Terence Tao
Assistant Professor of Mathematics
UCLA
Los Angeles, CA, USA.
PhD, Princeton 1996
[email protected]
http://www.math.ucla.edu/~tao
Ian Wanless
Research Fellow in Mathematics
Christ Church, Oxford, United Kingdom.
PhD, Australian National University 1997
[email protected]
Thomas Ward
School of Mathematics
University of East Anglia
Norwich, England.
[email protected]
http://www.mth.uea.ac.uk/people/tw.html
Herbert S. Wilf
Thomas A. Scott Professor of Mathematics
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA, USA
PhD, Columbia University 1958
[email protected]
http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~wilf
Henry Wolkowicz
Professor of Combinatorics and Optimization
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
PhD, McGill 1979
[email protected]
http://orion.math.uwaterloo.ca/~hwolkowi
Abraham Wyner
Visiting Assistant Professor of Statistics
University of California Berkeley
PhD, Stanford 1993
[email protected]
Doron Zeilberger
Professor of Mathematics
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA, USA.
PhD, Weizmann Institute of Science 1976
[email protected]
Yakov I. Zhitomirskii
Professor of Mathematics
Technion-Israel Institute of Technology
Haifa, Israel.
PhD, Moscow State University 1959
[email protected]
Who can sign?

All the individuals whose names appear above hold PhDs in Mathematics or Statistics or are faculty members in a Department of Mathematics or Statistics at a college or university. Anyone who meets this criterion and wants to add their name to this petition should send email to Barry Simon at [email protected].

 

Dror Bar-Natan
Senior Lecturer in Mathematics
The Hebrew University
Jerusalem, Israel.
PhD, Princeton 1991
[email protected]
http://www.ma.huji.ac.il/~drorbn

Check out his website, it is really cool, especially the PDI's

 

Tee hee.
'The Omega Code' is on PAX right
now. It is a hoot
The Antichrist gets his hints
what to do from the Bible Code
program he stole. What the Antichrsit
does is exactly what the
Bible says (plainly reading
forward) he will do