The Bible Debate

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I just cut and pasted that so it might not be real clear. Which word did you have a question about?

 

God has preserved people by preserving his perfect word?

 

Um, isn't it obvious enough that the harmony of Scripture over-rides any conjecture man can interject as we should all know God has never pitted Himself against His own words?

I believe I have revealed, again, that "Rule of Thumb".:thumbsup:

 

Yes, would you have it any other way?

 

Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every [branch] that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

Would you agree with the KJB translation?

 

You must not have the NKJV then.

 

I can't see you right now to answer honestly.:sleep:

 

Sure, I would rather have it the way God has it in his word.

Sure ... The word is aireo, which means to take away or remove. The "eth" is a little outdated. It should simply read "he takes away" or "he cuts off."

 

The problem is that the words of scripture cannot always be harmonized because of changing calendars, the historical context is different ,and a number of words changed their meaning over the time the Bible was written.

Harmonize John 3:22 and John 4:2

Harmonize Is. 45:7, Lam 3:38 and Amos 3:6 with what you have been taught about God's character and evil.

Harmonize Exodus 7:13 and Exodus 8:15.

Harmonize how Paul uses the word salvation and how Peter uses the word salvation in 1 Peter.

 

So far we are doing fairly well, so let's continue and try and keep this one down to a rumble, folks.

C4K is attempting to take a little vacation. :laugh: :laugh:

Ed

 

Which one of the translations of the OT which were available at the time did Jesus quote from?

 

No, You jumped too far.

 

Read the Psalm and see what is in danger of passing away and in need of preservation. It is not the words of God.

This is a place where you need to let the text say what it says.

 

BT:My answer would be that He did indeed inspire the originals, but after doing that, He then preserved them, to "this generation for ever"-Psalm 12:6-7.

Yep, your studies at PBC have taught you an old KJVO error-the "Psalm 12:6-7 thingie", taken straight outta Dr. Wilkinson's book!

Have you ever read an AV1611, the original KJV? If you have access to one or an exact repro, please observe the marginal note for the 2nd them in V7. It reads,"Heb. him, I. euery one of them". you see by that note, that the AV translators believed Ps. 12:7 is about PEOPLE, namely David & friends as they fled from Saul.

All we Baptists believe God preserved His word, of course. What mosta us DON'T believe is that Psalm 12:7 is about this preservation. and if it WAS, where is the KJV mentioned???????????????

Another thing mosta us do not believe is the false doctrine that the KJV is the ONLY valid English bible translation out there. this is entirely a MAN-MADE theory; not one quark of Scripture supports it by the slightest implication.

So you're now age 20? Great! I am approaching age 61, & have been debunking KJVO almost ten years longer than you've been alive. I can answer any and all pro-KJVO arguments; I've seen'em all. There hasn't been a new one since the 1970s. All the latest KJVO literature is the same ole trash in a new dumpster.

BTW, have you read Dr. Ruckman's Mark Of The Beast? If so, do you believe it was written by a rational mind? Do ya *REALLY* believe the antichrist will be a ten-foot-tall alien with huge black lips who will land a mile-wide spaceship on the Mount of olives & impart his mark with a kiss from those huge black lips?

 

I disagree with all of you. :laugh:

I think it means that God keeps His word. Or you could say that God keeps His promises, because His word is pure. There is no deceit in Him.

The previous verses are speaking about liars, flatterers, people whose words are deceitful. God is just the opposite. His word is true. If He says He will do something, He will do it.

It's not about bible words or people, but about God keeping His word or keeping His promises. He preserves His word/promises forever. He keeps His word forever. He is a God of His word, like you are a man of your word. It is speaking of God's character.
Just my thoughts.

 

Izzatso? Lessee ya prove him wrong!

 

Right, but Ps. 12:7 aint about that. And if it was, where does it refer to the KJV?

 

You're joking, right?