The Bible Doctrine Institute

Are you aqware that they use a lot of Ruckman written material for textbooks. Most KJO's don't wish to be associated with Ruckman.:tonofbricks: He is to far over the edge.

 

What a strange thing to say. And which courses are for people who do not wish to serve God, but would rather get puffed up with knowledge so as to ridicule people online?

And this institute awards ThD's - why would they do that without the proper faculty credentials and accreditation unless it is indeed for those who wish to get puffed up? Why not just offer an advanced certificate?

 

Internal contradictions?

In reviewing the TBCI web site, I found several disturbing things.
1. They appear closely associated with Peter Ruckman, who is a self-aggrandizing, bombastic heretic. Peter Ruckman’s violent temper, intemperate speech, prideful boasting and questionable lifestyle bring any association with him into question. I doubt that we would place much credence in someone who praised Charles Taze Russell as a great Bible student.
2. Assuming that they are pretty much a Ruckmanite school (if I am wrong, I will recant), these schools tend to be cultic—they praise themselves and their circle but they demonize everyone else.
3. The faculty/staff are mostly homegrown, which is one sign of a degree mill. I see no evidence of qualifications as Bible teachers. If they were instructed from Ruckman’s books, then they don’t know the Bible. IMHO, they are gulling the ignorant and unlearned into believing they are spiritual giants with outstanding academic qualifications. I see little praiseworthy in this.
4. The faculty/staff are festooned with doctorates from “less than wonderful” schools. Why do they accrue to themselves trappings of academia if they are mere humble Bible teachers who instruct the laity? On the other hand, they are obviously not great academics with impeccable credentials. There appears to be an internal contradiction here. They masquerade as scholars bearing capital letters, yet they inveigh against those “puffed up on knowledge.” I never thought there was virtue in ignorance. I am against pride and arrogance but I’m against ignorance, fakery and fraud too. It seems that there’s pride in those who decry it.
5. There are blatantly inaccuracies such as: “After two years at Midwestern, he was shocked to discover they rejected the King James Bible, and soon left.” Midwestern Baptist College, founded by Dr. Tom Malone, does in fact accept and use the KJV but they are not Ruckmanite. The Midwestern Baptist College web site plainly states: “The King James Bible is exclusively used at Midwestern Baptist College.” Why do people misrepresent other people’s positions? This is in the same vein as Jack Schaap’s diatribe against Pillsbury a few years ago.
6. Consider the self-aggrandizing in the following boast taken from the TBDI web page: “There is no doubt in the mind of the board of directors or the instructors here at TBDI that Dr. Lince was one of the greatest expository Bible Preachers this country has ever known.” Why do we have to make comparisons? Has anyone on this thread ever heard of Dr. Lince? I heard of him simply because I delve into a lot of esoteric trivia but I don’t think he qualifies as the greatest expositor in America.
7. A “proper Bible college course” is more than 50-75 hours of listening to tapes. Most of us get that much in Sunday School and church services each year. The rigor of the material and the activities along with the accountability are equally important. There appears to be no accountability except “on your honor.” Also, they appear to accept anyone of whatever belief upon payment of tuition and fees.

In sum, I find very little to commend this school. IMHO, it is another degree mill. Degree mills are no bargain at any price. They promise much more than they can deliver. On the other hand, I suppose they do teach some Bible truth and doctrine. And like the Apostle Paul, I must rejoice anytime the Word of God is taught whether is in cooperation or contention with us. The bottom line is that they perform at the Bible institute level but they award doctorates. IMHO, this is less than God-honoring.

 

Touche'

Very good points! I want to see the answers to these questions if the poster dares.

 

I hardly think that anyone hear has any fear of Dr Ruckman

We are called on by the word of God to expose false teachers however.

 

It looks like many of their staff fit the bill of being "puffed up" with knowledge; take note of the graduate degrees of the founder etc...

From their website:
Founder - Dr. James A. Lince B. Div., M. Th., D.D., Ph. D
President - Dr. David L. Peacock B.Div., M.Th., Th.D.
Vice President - Pastor Michael B. Wheeler B. Div., M. Th.

The King James Version is a beautiful translation but it is unwise to elevate it to the place of worship; God alone is to be worshiped, the Bible, KJV or otherwise points to us to Him as it is His perfect revelation to us in the original manuscripts...

But what do I know? I am a heretical Congregational Pastor holding to Baptist Distinctives who is all "puffed up" with knowledge...

 

Here is an interesting article on this topic.

 

Educated "heretics" ???

Hi Lukasaurus ...
Just an observation; the term "heretic" seems to be slung around loosely on this board and I'm not sure it's relevant in a discussion forum about colleges and schools. I'm not a moderator, but let's cool down a bit here and not be so quick to judge and falsely acuse the majority of heretical beliefs. For your benefit, I have included a definition of the word.

Heretic- anyone who does not conform to an established attitude, doctrine, or principle. (Dictionary.com, 2008)

In peace.

 

I'm sorry, does it frustrate you when someone respectfully asks you to refrain from false accusations? Perhaps you only want to read responses and opinions that agree with your position. Life would be so much easier this way. Your witness of the Gospel falls on deaf ears with an argumentative and combative approach. Try a little love, brother!

 

Hi Lukasaurus,
Thanks for the reply, I can understand how you feel. I wish you well in your studies. :thumbs:

 

I think even you could re-read your posts and see that you were indeed being combative (mostly after your op, when negative comments were made about this institute). If you do not appreciate hearing opinions about that school (or about Dr. Ruckman) , then you probably should not have posted it.

 

Peter Ruckman

The life, teachings and reputation of Peter Ruckman is well known among American Fundamentalists. There is no refutation or contention as to the veracity of these accusations. Thus, we have Biblically repudiated him and his doctrine.

1 Timothy 5:19-21 (King James Version)

19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.

20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, and the elect angels, that thou observe these things without preferring one before another, doing nothing by partiality.

Titus 3:9-11 (King James Version)

9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself.

 

Well...that about wraps up your posting here, right? I mean, since we're all heretics and all, and you shouldn't want to associate yourself with such rampant darkness...


...I can only assume that any further postings by you on this board constitute disobedience.

 

I have found several issues with such a statement. The first would be the length of each course. Normally, a semester is 16 weeks or Liberty University divides the semester into 8wk minimesters. So the lack of class time raises an large flag. Then the little amount of tapes or lecutres. One could find such by listening to one sermon a week. Essentially, it is a weak course.

As regards to your comment, why state it? The school offers a "degree" program, so obviously you want some credit for the work you have done. If this is a claim the school makes, then why charge someone for the course? I do realize the cost is minimal, but why waste minimal money that can be placed elsewhere. The doctrines are wonderful doctrines, but there is a difference in being indoctrinated, and learning to interpret the Bible, and following the doctrine therein it.