The blessings of Rock N Roll Music

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  1. evangelist6589

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    Many Fundamentalist think that Rock is from the devil and there are segments of it that are evil and satanic. However like anything there are abuses and blessings. One such blessing with Rock is the drive it can give you in a workout. For example usually I get tired after a short period of time running while listening to podcasts. However I have noticed that when I tune in some Rock I can run 2-4 times longer and without getting tired as easily. Yeah if you want a drive tune into Stryper Soldiers Under Command, To Hell with the Devil, and tunes from Petra/WhiteCross, etc..

    There have been studies and the book Measuring the Music (which sadly is a book against CCM) however it does contain some useful information in that Rock can drive someone physically and I see this when I workout. So Is Rock from Satan? Or like anything there are abuses and blessings and Fundamentalist have taken things to an extreme. What do you say?
     
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    How old are you?

    I haven't heard of these bands for decades.
     
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    I grew up when Rock and Roll was "invented."

    BTW, the term "Rock and Roll" was a term used for a couple having sx.

    A Yankee dj (memory fails as to who and where) first applied the term to the music.

    Now, about the OP.

    The intent of music is NEVER benign. It is NEVER to be used without rational awareness of the impact upon that believer.

    Some will state that God accepts all types of music. And this may be the truth, however it is NOT the truth if the believer is duped into supplanting the Holy Spirit with music.

    The rhythmic patterns with basic cord patterns that are consistently repeated does lead to irrational "highs" and can make one less tolerant of reality. This is not my view, but well documented by those who have studied crowd responses to music.

    Nor is it unique to the current modern music, but has been a tracked to music that has a similar mode of repeated rhythmic, melodic, and chordal patterns (though obviously not electronic).

    The Scriptures state that the believer is to have their mind, soul, strength completely given to Christ.

    There is no place for the mind to be taken over by music.

    There is no place for the strength to be given over to the demands of music.

    Again, music is NOT benign, nor is it a believer's friend and without some very secure personal principles to set as a watch and guard to the life and living a believer may easily quench the leading of the Holy Spirit being supplanted by some type of music.
     
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    Jesus is into Rock and Rolling....

    ....that's right; he was buried behind a rock, and when He arose, the rock went rolling away!

    I ssaid this before. My wife and I had a successful music ministry for years, rewriting the words of old 60, 70 and 80's rock and roll!

    We successfully changed songs like:

    Surfin' USA to Churchin' USA
    Alley Oop to Pastor Oop
    Johnny B Good to Johnny Be Good
    I've Got You Babe to We've Got You, Lord!
    Bye, bye Love to Bye, bye sin!
    The Beat Goes On to the Greed Goes On!

    Etc. I think you got the idea....we discovered early on, that the music cut across denominational lines as it put people at ease, and in the mood to let the Holy Spirit talk to them through the new message of the old songs.

    We were extremely popular at all ages, and all groups. And it allowed me to take the groups [we ministered to] to a place where they were open for my testimony. The testimony and the music were a one-two punch, and we always had people coming forward to receive Jesus, and get prayer to either return to the place they were before they fell into complacency of make a full recommitment.

    I came from a solid country gospel background in music, and when my wife suggested this genre, I balked and said it would never work. Well, I reworked a few songs and did one here and there, and found that people loved the concept. So we moved straight over to this genre, and we worked every weekend and during the week.

    We titled our music "Morphed Rock!"
     
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    I listen to Sixties on Six on Sirrus radio, and occasionally turn to Fifties on Five, and will continue to do so. The Rock and Roll, and lyrics, when compared to great Gospel songs such as "Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goal Posts of Life," "Turn the Radio On", to the gospel song that says "we will soar past Neptune, Jupiter and Mars," I'll Fly Away," "Ill Meet You at the River" and countless other unBiblical gems with their ridiculous knee slapping tunes, I will stick to oldies thank you. They make more sense including "Purple People Eater."
     
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    Wait a minute here... I did not intend to imply that lyrics mean nothing. Obviously there is much evil in Rock, however not all Rock is bad. Yesterday I was listening to a Christian Rock song from 1993 and the lyrics were okay. No not like great gospel music, but I was listening to the music for the drive it gave me when running. No the music is not replacing the Holy Spirit, as the Holy Spirit is not going to move me physically when running. Will get to the other posts later.
     
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    They were popular in my day. Also the lyrics in the songs (while not perfect) beat most of todays music. Petra for example has a album from 1989 called Petra Praise and its singing classic hymns with rock N Roll. The lyrics are rock gold.
     
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    Add my name to the list that think Rock & Roll is from the devil. You said it best in the op, Rock & Roll can drive someone physically. The beat was designed for the flesh, to quicken the flesh and regardless if someone changes the words or not many people are deceived into thinking they are in the spirit when they listen to it.
     
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    For reasons I won't go into, I used to have that album. There weren't any hymns on it. It was all "worship choruses".

    Now, Alan Jackson and Larry Gatlin both have great albums with hymns on them. Jackson's albums are more traditional arrangements, while Gatlin's are more SG oriented, especially the nod to Wally Fowler on Love Lifted Me.

    Those are hymns.

    By the way, Johnny Cash is Dead (and His House Burned Down) notwithstanding, I think it's really interesting that the Gatlin Brothers chose a gospel album for their comeback.
     
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    All music has a beat to include all old time hymns.
     
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    What if I just listen to it and play it for entertainment?
     
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    There is nothing wrong with worship praise songs is there not? Sure I would not play Petra Praise in a church service, but for my enjoyment I think its great.
     
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    How is running/exercising glorifying the flesh? This one you will need to explain. If the music has no cuss words, no sex language, and such and I am just using it to drive me to run longer and faster (which if you studied the subject in depth you would see the effects of music) bad? These questions you need to explain for you seem to think that running and exercising is glorifying the flesh.
     
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    Depends on the music and the lyrics. In my kickboxing class they play much worldly music with bad lyrics. However I do not let it get to me...
     
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    Depends on the song. I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with it (except artistically, which is terrible). I was just pointing out that they're not hymns/
     
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    The oldest definition of hymn has generally been something to the effect of "Sung praise to God." (that was augustine, I think).

    we have, recently, started calling hymns by other names: first it was "Gospel songs", then "worship Chorus." but they all fit the basic definition of hymn.

    So here's a list of hymns:
    -Praise to the Lord, the Almighty
    -Here I am to worship
    -In Christ Alone
    -Everlasting God
    -Lord I lift Your Name on High
     
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    You need to show me in my post where I said running and exercising is glorying the flesh.
     
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    This has been a lifelong issue for me, I have played guitar for nearly 50 years, played in many groups.

    I love the sound of a Les Paul through a Marshall amp, but can you glorify God with this sound? I don't think you can.

    I have even played in Christian groups where we played songs like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqRHkUzuYT4

    Awesome song, but again, does this really glorify Jesus? Not much different than the secular groups I played in.

    In the end, I had to get away from it, now I play traditional hymns. Not as exciting maybe, but far more joyous. There is a difference.
     
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    what ever happened to the Holy Spirit drawing Men in--do we have to change our ways and format ourselves after the pattern of the world so that Men can be drawn ??

    If we have to format ourselves after the things of the world---then it is US who are drawing men in and NOT the Holy Spirit--This is our biggest problem of our day---we somehow think WE have to do the work--Why cant we just be faithful in the way of truth and let The Holy Spirit do His Work ??
     
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    Terrible? I love Petra Praise the Rock Cries out. Granted I think the 2nd version of that album and the later CD's from the band lack quality. The best stuff from them was in the 80's - early 90's.
     

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