The Christ of RCC is the Son of Lucifer

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  1. Eliyahu

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    Easter Vigil

    Easter Vigil Reveals that the Christ of RCC is different from the True Jesus Christ who shed Blood and died at the Cross.
    In the following Video, I have found RCC in Easter Vigil are confessing that their Christ is the son of Lucifer. Their Triune god is just the son of Perpetual Virgin Mary, and one of over 1200 gods (Saints) to whom they communicate by prayers as they are Polytheists.
    The God of RCC is different from the True God of Israel, God of True Christian Believers.
    Christ of RCC is different from the True Christ of the Born-Again Believers in Jesus Christ,
    but Christ of RCC is the Son of Lucifer, the Satan!

    The following site is in Latin, English, Korean
    One of the Reasons why RCC performs Mass in Latin is to hide such
    Pagan worship by themselves, from the public.




    Easter Vigil Recite :

    Flammas Dius Lucifer Flaming Divine Lucifer
    Matutmus invenient finds the Goddess of Dawn ( Early Morning)
    Ille, inquam, Lucifer I say, Lucifer
    Qui nescit occasum. Who will never be defeated
    Christus Fillus Tuus, Christ is Thy Son
    regressus ab inferis, who return from Inferno ( Hell or Purgatory)
    Humano generi serenus illuxit : shedding His peaceful Light
    Et vivgt et regnet in saeculorum saeculorum: is alive and reigns in the world without end

    This appears after 3 min 30 seconds in the above U-Tube Video.


    The above translation may not be exactly correct. I translated the portion because I found some of the translation on the Video was in error apparently.


    If anyone of you are confident with Latin, please correct the errors if any, especially the second sentence ( Matutmus Invenient).


    The translation on Video for the first 2 lines is

    Flammas Dius Lucifer Flaming Lucifer finds mankind,
    Matutmus invenient I say oh Lucifer.


    RCC Praise Christ as the Son of Lucifer, the Satan!



    Their Christ is not the True Christ in the Bible.
     
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    This is an out right lie. I didn't even have to watch the presented video to know its Anti-Catholic Vitriol. I have a Latin mass missal and there is no prayer like that. Your lack of knowledge of Catholicism is evident in that you don't even know that they say mass in the current vernacular as well. Again this is a LIE.
    Also this is a lie because obviously the person is using wrong Latin words in the prayer. And obviously doesn't know Latin. First any time lucifer is used in Latin it means morning star. It is Latin for morning star. So if you see lucifer with the L not capitalized it means star. This guy twisted the Latin to make it sound like something it is not. Additionally no where in this Latin prayer are the words in this succession. Now I will put the actual prayer. Its in the middle of a longer prayer. For Background Easter Vigil the Catholic Church uses candles to signify the light of Christ into the world as we await his second coming and not only his resurrection. And so we light the Candle which represents this. Then the ACTUAL PRAYER IS:
    Flammas ejus lucifer matutinus inenaiat. Ille, inguam, lucifer, qui nescit occasum. Ille, qui regressus ab inferis , humano genei serenus illuxit. Precamur ergo te, Domine: ut nos famulos tuos, omenemque clerum, et devotissimum populum: una cum beatissimo Papa nostro.......which the actual prayer is translated properly into English: "Let the morning star find its flame alight: that star, I mean, which know no setting. He, who, returning from the grave, serenely shown forth upon mankind we beseach thee therefore Oh Lord that thou wouldst grant peaceful times during this paschal festival and vouchsafe to rule govern and keep with they constant protection us thy servants....

    and note non capital letters means it not a proper noun. So it isn't mean as in the proper noun that this guy erroneously associates with the Devil. Not to mention he put in Latin words not even in the prayer and he give an incorrect translation that is obvious to any Latin student.

    What did Jesus say? Speaking to the Pharisees Jesus said "You follow your father who is the father of lies" Therefore someone who lies belongs to a different father than Jesus' Father who is in heaven. Now the OP may be too ignorant about the matter to actually be lying himself but he is certainly relying on information provided by a liar therefore spreading lies. This is why it is important to actually study something rather than rely on hearsay.
     
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    Did you really have to use the highest font? Were you trying to make some kind of point? Seven may be the perfect number, but... Font 7 makes reading extremly hard.
     
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    You high again, brother Eliyahu? :laugh:

    While I am not a Catholic and I have some issues with what many Catholics believe and practice, I know this from having many Catholic acquaintances. They do NOT worship a different Jesus Christ than I do.

    You have been deceived by some foolishness on the internet.

     
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    It must be true! They can't put it on the internet if it isn't true!
     
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    Like I'm a French Model! Bon Jour.
     
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    Did you watch the Video?

    Also, what I wrote down on the OP shows you that they are calling Chris the son of Lucifer? What else do you need for the evidence?


    RCC do not believe that All the sins were forgiven at the Cross, and therefore they ask their god to forgive their sins at every Mass.

    In the above mentioned Video, they confess their Christ returned from the Hell. But I believe Jesus went to the Paradise along with the Robber at the Cross.

    Unless Paradise and Hell are the same place, they must be wrong.

    If I am deceived by the Internet, that Internet must be the one which is actually showing the Vatican Easter Vigil and Vatican must be doing something for the deception.
     
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    Yes, the font seemed to be too big this time.
     
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    You are quite ignorant about the Video. People shouldn't be deceived by it.

    John 8:44 can apply to you too!

    You have been beautifying the Idolatry all the time!

    Watch Video again!

    Apparently, in the presence of Mr. Ratchinger, the man was reciting that

    Christ return from Inferno! Listen to it again !

    Is Christ the Son of Morning Star?

    Don't you know Jesus is Son of God?

    Is God the Morning Star? Where did you get it?

    Have RCC ever declared openly that Jesus Christ is the Son of Lucifer?

    Listen to it carefully! If you deny what is shown on Video, you are telling lies!

    I have not manipulated the Video at all, and it shows what I said!


    Liars sometimes claim that the honest men are the liars so that he can whitewash himself!
     
  10. Walter

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    The prayer that the Deacon is chanting at the Easter Vigil is the 'Exultet'. It is nothing like the one you have posted. You are posting a lie. No where in that chant (in Latin or the venacular) does it sat what the video claims it does. The Catholic Church has never had a prayer anything like the one you have posted above. The Deacon is not chanting ANYTHING like what you say he is. Here is the English translation of the Latin chant:

    EASTER VIGIL EXULTET
    Rejoice heavenly powers! Sing choirs of angels!
    Exult, all creation around God's throne!
    Jesus Christ, our King is risen!
    Sound the trumpet of salvation!
    Rejoice, O earth, in shining splendor,
    radiant in the brightness of your King!
    Christ has conquered! Glory fills you!
    Darkness vanishes forever!
    Rejoice, O Mother Church! Exult in glory!
    The risen Savior shines upon you!
    Let this place resound with joy,
    echoing the mighty song of all God's people!
    It is truly right
    that with full hearts and minds and voices
    we should praise the unseen God,
    the all powerful Father,
    and his only Son, our Lord Jesus Christ.
    For Christ has ransomed us with his blood,
    and paid for us the price of Adam's sin
    to our eternal Father!
    This is our Passover feast,
    when Christ, the true Lamb, is slain,
    whose blood consecrates the homes of all believers.
    This is the night
    when first you saved our fathers:
    you freed the people of Israel from their slavery
    and led them dry-shod through the sea.
    This is the night
    when the pillar of fire
    destroyed the darkness of sin!
    This is the night
    when Christians everywhere,
    washed clean of sin
    and freed from all defilement,
    are restored to grace
    and grow together in holiness.


    This is the night
    when Jesus Christ broke the chains of death
    and rose triumphant from the grave.
    What good would life have been to us,
    had Christ not come as our Redeemer?
    Father, how wonderful your care for us!
    How boundless your merciful love!
    To ransom a slave you gave away your Son.
    O happy fault, O necessary sin of Adam,
    which gained for us so great a Redeemer!
    Most blessed of all nights,
    chosen by God to see Christ rising from the dead!
    Of this night scripture says:
    "The night will be clear as day:
    it will become my light, my joy."
    The power of this holy night
    dispels all evil, washes guilt away,
    restores lost innocence, brings mourners joy;
    it casts out hatred, brings us peace,
    and humbles earthly pride.
    Night truly blessed
    when heaven is wedded to earth
    and man is reconciled with God!
    Therefore, heavenly Father,
    in the joy of this night
    receive our evening sacrifice of praise,
    your Church's solemn offering.
    Accept this Easter candle,
    a flame divided but undimmed,
    a pillar of fire that glows to the honor of God.
    Let it mingle with the lights of heaven
    and continue bravely burning
    to dispel the darkness of this night!
    May the Morning Star which never sets
    find this flame still burning:
    Christ, that Morning Star,
    who came back from the dead,
    and shed his peaceful light on all mankind,
    your Son who lives and reigns for ever and ever. Amen.
     
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    If you think, the video is manipulated, you can check the other sites as well.

    They are more less the same each other.














    You don't have to watch the whole video for 3-4 minutes but watch the portion after 3 minutes, in some case, after 1 minute and a half.​


    NObody has modified it. Only the problem could be the interpretation of the Latin words, because they are not the full sentences, but a kind of Poem.

    However, no one can deny that it has some problem with the paganism, and the praise of Lucifer.
     
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    Walter do you have eyes and ears?

    Watch what I posted, because it doesn't take longer than 5 minutes.

    If you don't have time, just focus on it after 3 minute 30 seconds.

    That Video is just taken from Vatican.
     
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    This takes only 2 minutes and 20 seconds.





    You can carefully watch it, then you can confirm what I posted is recited by the man.

    You can hear all the words that I mentioned.

    Please check with Latin Dictionary. It is not difficult to verify it.

    Please check and confirm if you have eyes and ears!

    I did it for myself! checked each word one by one. I learned Latin 40 years ago, then no chance to practice it, but this is not too difficult to understand.

    Please check with any Latin expert.

    You may understand why RCC try to recite and conduct the ceremony in Latin.

    They are deceiving the multitudes.


    I don't say that this is all about Vatican's Easter Vigil, but this is a part of it and it is recited at the end of the session.
     
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    You don't know what you are talking about. I DO know the latin translation and I gave it to you. It is nothing what you are claiming it is. You are 100% wrong. You are posting a lie and you should check it out for yourself. Google it like I suggested. This prayer (proclamation) is chanted in EVERY Catholic Church in the world at the Easter Vigil. Latin or venacular, it does not say what you claim it does. If your Latin is really that rusty YOU should check out how the Exultet is translated before you post this kind of garbage!
     
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    There is NO paganism and NO 'praise of Lucifer'! What ever you think you are hearing is not what is being chanted. What the video claims is being chanted is NOT being chanted! Is it really that hard for you to read the actual English translation of the Exultet I posted for you. BTW, it is a hymn of praise, but not of Lucifer!

    I find it very interesting that it is your contention that the Exultet is chanted in Latin in the Vatican differently than it is chanted (and done in Latin for the purpose of deception) in EVERY Church in the world (and usually in the venacular). For your information, Anglicans, Episcopalians and various Lutherans use the EXACT same Exultet extracted word for word from the Roman Missal in their Easter Vigils. Nothing about 'praise of Lucifer', no 'paganism'.
     
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    You don't know how to listen in Latin!

    Listen to it carefully!

    It is not difficult.

    You are manufacturing what is not spoken in the chanting.

    Just find Luchifer instead of Lucifer!

    He calls < Flammas Dius Luchifer >

    then < Christus Fillus Tuus >

    which means Christo, Thy Son!

    Apparently he chant Dius Luchifer which means Divine Lucifer!

    You don't know how to hear in Latin!

    It is not difficult to hear the pronunciation. Listen carefully!

    Do you think Lucifer is the Morning Star? Read Isaiah 14:12 according to KJV!


    Instead of bringing another literature, Listen to the same Video and interpret it! It is not difficult to hear it!
     
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    You are libelling someone who report Truth and reveal the False.

    I didn't change anything in the Video.

    Listen to it carefully, Word by Word! Why do they call Luchifer ?

    They pronounce Lucifer Luchifer in Latin, and then call Christus Fillus Tuus.

    Am I lying yet because I tell the Truth?
     
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    "# I was gonna post something coherent on Baptistboard, but then I got high"
     

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