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True enough but what bothers me even more than that is how they go about enforcing the laws they do like just to protect their own political rear ends. I guess that's what they call progress.

 

Let's see according to George Bush the terrorists hate us because of our freedoms. So what did we do to defend them? We gave them all up.

Guess we showed them didn't we? Stupid terrorists.

 

Not exactly CMG but evidently that's how most of the establishment friendly republicans and democrats like to portray people that don't believe in endless unconstitutional military adventurism and meddling in the affairs of other nations.

I think of myself as more of a constitutionalist paleo conservative republican. But whatever label you prefer to stick on me to reinforce your own beliefs and argument is okay to I reckon. What ever works to keep your boat afloat. Right?

Silly me. I just don't seem to be able to comprehend how more meddling in the affairs of other nations is going to solve the problems our past meddling in the affairs of other nations has caused. But as I have learned from my years here arguing with the establishment faithful on both sides reason and genuine debate has been replaced with corporate funded "expert opinions" and often repeated establishment party talking points. If all else fails paste on a big toothy smile call your opponent's character into question and label any views other than your own "extreme". It's a good enough technique to get both George Bush and Barrack Obama elected then re elected so why mess with it?

So far this avenue of thought has worked out just dandy. Just one look at how well our own country's affairs have been run by the corporatist establishment republicans and democrats gives me great hope that they'll only do what's right and proper in conducting our policies towards other nations from this point forward into the future. Imho we should just stick to the same strategy that has proven to be so effective in the past. Stick to our partisan guns and blame the other political party while demonizing every government that doesn't become immediately subservient to Washington and it's demands no matter how outrageous or nonsensical. Why tinker around with a game plan that has been working so well for so long?

Let us just keep putting one foot in front of the other trudging down the same path we've been going for the last 80 years, eventually everything will turn out just peachy.

Can I get an Amen?

 

Kind of strange then how the nuclear watch dogs, our own intell agencies and even the Israeli Mossad disagree with your assesments. What's up with that I wonder? Must be they didn't get your memo eh?

Then again mabye they don't rely on the corporate media for all their information either? Hmmm.

BTW, if you actually read the whole article including all the articles and documents which are linked to the main article you might notice that the auther is not claiming Iran is not a threat. What he is actually saying is Iran is not the threat the neocons in both parties and the corporatized media is making it out to be.

I just love how you guys jump to conclusions and get your horses in an uproar before you even know what is actually being said.

If you consider empowering our enemies and giving them funding and arms a victory for our side the yes the "war on terror" has been a huge success. So successful has the FBI been in keeping us safe from the terrorist hoards that it has had to resort to recruiting willing Muslims with very low IQs and do all the planning and securing weapons for them just so they could turn around and bust them to show what a great jod it's been doing to keep us all safe.

I believe it was the NY times that did a front page story on it. But then I imagine you only read publications that reinforce your preconceived notions. Am I right?

 

Probably surprise you to know after all these years that I actually voted for G. W. Bush the first time. Yeah, imagine that. I voted for him because he ran on a non interventionist and non nation building anti UN platform. Boy howdy was I ever disappointed to find out what a warmongering liar he really was and if that wasn't bad enough he talked real tough against the UN in front of the cameras while sending his wife to England to get us back under the thumb of UNESCO. Yessir I was neoconned just like every other limited government conservative republican that voted for him in those days. But you know as bad as all that bothered me the thing that bothered me even more was how fast most of you other limited government conservative republicans changed stripes and accepted everything we were all against just one administration earlier.

I stayed the same. You all changed. Or you all went to sleep because a "republican" was in office and "republicans" controlled congress.

As time went on and you all accepted pre emptive strikes, torture, warrant-less searches, endless warfare, nation building, deficit spending, a "unitary presidency" and a general dislike for due process the rule of law and our founding principles it became obvious to me that the republicans had become the democrats so it's little wonder to me now that you would all mistake me for a libertarian today. I didn't move further to right CMG you all moved further to the left and became more authoritarian. More like the democrats.

You guys that call yourselves republicans today are just yesterday's democrats and authoritarians or what I call demopublicans. You sold your republican heritage because of fear and you're all still afraid of everything the corporations tell you to be afraid of through the "think tanks" they own and the mass hysteria media they control.

As far as Iran goes it probably is a threat but not so much to the people of the USA as it is to the corrupt lawless foreign corporate regime in Washington that pretends to be our government that creates and runs terrorist groups like Al Qaeda and the Taliban while condemning, sanctioning and threatening to destroy other nations for doing the same thing.

Iran is not nearly as big a threat to our national security as the lawless hypocrites in Washington that use fear to whip us into servile subjects and government dependents instead of free and independent citizens. The terror sponsoring regime in Iran is thousands of miles away with little to no chance of destroying us while the terrorist regime in Washington is already inside our borders and working everyday to destroy us from within while empowering and strengthening our enemies abroad so they can destroy what's left of us after the regime in Washington takes us down morally and economically. We should all be more concerned about the enemy globalist regime already inside the gates than a militarily weak Iran thousands of miles away. Russia and China know we're in the Middle East and North Africa to limit their resources that's what the "war on terror" is all about if it was about fighting terrorism why are we supporting Al Qaeda the Muslim Brotherhood the FSA, Al Nusra and the MEK? Because Obama is a Muslim? What a sad commentary that you demopublicans would buy such an obvious conspiracy theory like that while denying that we've been taken over by a criminal corporate globalist regime. Obama isn't a Muslim he's an atheist without a soul! He sold that long ago to gain power. The evidence that our government has been co opted by the global corporate elite like the republican party was co opted by the neocons is manifest but you all refuse to believe it because the corporation's talking heads laugh and roll their eyes whenever anyone even speaks about it. No it isn't so they say that's crazy don't listen to the voices that warn you that tyranny has taken over. This is America the exceptional country it can't happen here. Ha ha ha ho ho ho!

Republicans? Yeah right. The republicans I knew had spines and weren't afraid of every shadow of a threat that crossed their path. They stood up for what they believed in instead of acquiescing to tyranny out of fear of some supposed threat from beyond. Republicans like that are few and far between these days and there ain't but a couple left on this board. They gave you demopublicans up for lost. If I was smart I'd do the same but I keep hoping you'll all come back to your senses but that hope is starting to fade fast now.

You asked me so I told ya CMG.

 

Wow how am I supposed to respond to this? Yes sir I promise not to use your tactics against you anymore?

You're "whole post" was nothing more than a string of insults and the typical hogwash you demopublicans throw at anyone that disagrees with you. And now you got the gall to order me not to respond in kind? Who do you think you are my master? Forget you buddy.

You might be the alpha dog at home and scare everyone there into submission but I'm not your family dog. I won't cower in the corner when you enter a room.

If you think you can come in here and be insulting and hostile and act like a common school yard bully without getting it thrown right back at you, you got anther think coming.

Salty is right I don' t take orders from hypocrites. Is that clear enough?

 

I got a chuckle out your post where you showed you didn't know your lefties from your righties yet.

 

Well actually it's coming from someone that just proved that there is no way you can refute all the evidence that doesn't favor your position and showed it to be based on nothing more than your own personal biased views.

If you actually had an argument that showed your position held any water at all you'd think it would have come out by now.

Just the fact that you have to resort to using snippy remarks and strings of invectives should be enough to make any reasonable person begin to doubt the premises their own argument is based on.

But then you never expected to come face to face with evidence you couldn't possibly refute did you. I imagine that you've just gotten used to people either agreeing with your positions or backing down after you started flinging insults and invectives at them.

So far the only thing you've proved is that you'll go to great lengths to protect your erroneous beliefs.

I would be happy to continue that debate using reason and evidence vs your personal feelings on the subject if you'd like. I'm quite cetain I come up with many more facts and pieces of information to support my position than can come up with insults and invectives to support your's. ; )