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I think his statement is suggesting that HE (Herald) will decide for him.

 

Because historical and theological accuracy matter to me.

 

Yes. Winman has admitted to holding to Open Theism, but then qualified that statement so as not to put himself in a corner. But the fact remains that his articulated theology is consistent with Open Theism and full Pelagianism.

 

Heres how this appears to me & I will use "Reprobation" as a subject matter that matters to me.

1) anything I read of value about the subject is either bookmarked on my PC, saved in a file or copied & manually filed.

2) if I obtain information from a book Im reading I highlight it & tab it with a post-it note. I will go back to it for reference.

3) if I cant do any of that, like inf on a you tube, I will record the brief verbiage in a composition book.

4) I am contacting 3 pastors via phone to ask some puzzling questions I cant figure out & record them as well.

5) since the subject matter....in this case reprobation has commentary from the Dutch Reformed Great 'Abe Kuyper' I am personally meeting with a local Dutch Reformed Pastor to converse about it.....most Reform Baptists Pastors are not conversant in Kuyper.

See....what I am saying is that when it matters that much to me, I try to take it apart & record all references to it to make a good story to tell & to satisfy my understanding. It appears that you & a few others, though you claim to be very versed in your own subject, dont offer up adequate evidence to support your thesis. So what are we to conclude?

 

Well I did read this recently;

Actually all decisions are influenced by the pro's and con's of it. Submiting to the righteousness of God was a choice I made and it wasn't a mistake. It was according to scripture. Rom10:1-4. Confession is made unto Salvation Rom 10:10. The both of them require a decision. Didn't you make those decisions?
MB

 

As soon as the grace of the Holy Spirit regenerated me I cried Jesus Save Me A poor & retched sinner ....and I was saved.

Eph. 2: 8-9

 

Sounds as if you were saved and didn't know it. You see to be regenerated means to be saved.
MB

 

Well if that gives you satisfaction MB, then go with it. I however do not agree that a person who is guilty of the sin of non-belief can be saved without Gods intervention. See that is exactly what the Holy Spirit accused me of....the terrible sin of unbelief. And for that I was ashamed. That is what it took.

 

I have always offered evidence to support my theses. I kind of got used to that during my education.

If others refuse to accept it or don't think it adequate, that's their problem, not mine. I have personally found that often when someone does that, it is because he or she has a problem with the evidence.

My personal opinions and beliefs are not infallible, but I try to distinguish between those and historical and objective facts, on and off this forum.

 

Thank you.

I think most thoughtful non-cals would agree with your assessment.

I was a Free Will Baptist for years and I saw Calvinism as wrong but perfectly consistent.

 

Then as a ex- FREE WILL BAPTIST, please explain how a FW Christian cannot understand that a person can be regenerated prior to believing

Is this a Romans 3 thing?

 

It is a fundamental misappropriation of terms.

As an Arminian I used to make this common error. I thought that almost all terms related to salvation were simply synonyms of each other.

When I heard the term "regeneration" for example, in my mind I simply heard the word "salvation". I lacked the understanding that different terms mean different things even if they are RELATED to the same thing.

 

Isn't it intervention when God draws man or convinces man or even convicts man. These are the influences that brought me to a submission to His righteousness and confession of Christ. Only after this was I regenerated or saved.
MB

 

You were regenerated SO THAT you could be saved.

 

Well you know if what you said is true you would think I would have known that. Still being regenerated is being saved and I know when it happened.
MB

 

Whoa cowboy, when have I ever said I believe in Open Theism? I challenge you to show where I have ever said such a thing, you cannot do it.

You need to retract this statement right now or show where I have ever said I believe in Open Theism.

 

Skandelon

you wrote, "they are carrying out God's predetermined will for them by rebuking you for holding to God's predetermined will for you...and you are carrying out God's predetermined will for you by rebuking them for holding to God's predetermined will for them."

I have never heard it put that way, and I don't see how to contradict it.