The Cross, the Vinegar, and the Sponge on Stick

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  1. LadyEagle

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    Recently watched a History Channel presentaton on the trash/sewer systems of the Ancient Roman Empire. They were discussing public toilets that had running water and a trough of running water in front of them where they kept sponges on sticks for cleansing. The next day I woke up and was thinking about the sponge on the stick and vinegar given to Jesus while on the cross, wondering if there was any correlation, since I have never heard anything preached about this. I found this video on the web and am interested in your thoughts. Is this possible? Is this probable? When put into perspective of the customs of the times, it poses an interesting perspective. Was the vinegar given to Jesus as an act of kindness or humanitarian motives? Now in thinking about this, the Romans were known for being cruel, so that doesn't seem to fit. What are your thoughts?

    From Wikipedia: "A system of thirteen aqueducts provided the inhabitants of Rome with water of varying quality, the best being reserved for potable supplies. Poorer-quality water was used in the public baths and in the latrines, which were an early form of toilet. Latrine systems have been found in many places, such as Housesteads, a Roman fort on Hadrian's Wall, in Pompeii, Herculaneum, and elsewhere that flushed waste away with a stream of water. Romans used sea sponges on sticks after defecation."

    The video is here: http://davemiers.com/2009/09/24/filfthy-roman-sponge/
     
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    Wow. I never knew that sponges on a stick and vinegar were Roman toilet paper. If that is what was offered to Jesus....yuck. It would go along with the other abuse and humiliation that he suffered while on the cross though, like the crown of thorns and the mocking.

    But, as we know :godisgood:
     
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    Here's some trivia regarding early Israel's toileting traditions

    Rob

     
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    Thanks, Rob. (it was quite graphic!!) I did some research and there have been discovered Roman baths in Jerusalem at the time of Christ. Remembering that Jerusalem was under Roman rule at the time of the Crucifixion, the above explanation in the video seems plausible to me. We can never know how much our Lord suffered for our sins.....
     
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    This is the exact sort of exchange that occurs on BB!!!!!! Which Bible, which denomination, which kind of Baptist denomination, which Bible interpretation, which size of stone to wipe one's . . . In other words, we are all pharisees.
     
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    And why are some "Biblical" words banned in BB? After all, the KJV defines "male" as one who pisses on a wall. Look it up for yourselves. Hint:Strongs.
     
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    I too have read that about Roman hygiene but have never thought that as part of the Passion of Our Lord. I was taught that hyssop was on the sponge rather than vinegar and it was offered as an anaesthetic type of thing, or it may have been a poison....so in a sense a type of mercy.

    Jesus had bled profusely from His beating and not eaten since the Last Supper so He would have been hideously dehydrated.

    The fact that Christ rejected it would have helped reduce the suffering which was in fact His mission on Earth. He emptied himself out for our redemption.
     

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