The Crystal Sea in Heaven

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  1. lastday

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    "A Throne was set in heaven. One, like a jasper and sardine stone, sat upon the Throne and 24 Elders, crowned with gold and clothed in white raiment, sat on thrones. Seven lamps of fire, representing the 7 spirits of God, were ablaze before the Throne. An emerald-like rainbow circled the Throne. Flashes of lightning, peals of thunder and voices issued forth. Before the Throne was a sea of glass, like Crystal. In the center, around the Throne were four Beasts, each with six wings filled with eyes in front and behind. Whenever they worship the One sitting on the Throne, the 24 Elders cast their crowns before Him and bow in worship also". Rev.4.

    Later on, in Rev.15, all the Martyrs come out from under the Altar in the Temple "which had been filled with the smoke of God's glory and power so that no one might enter the Temple". All the Martyrs are joined by 144,000 "Firstfruit unto God and the Lamb". They are members of the 12 Tribes of Israel whom the Lamb just "redeemed from among men on earth".
    They sing the song of the Lamb and the Martyrs sing the song of Moses!

    This scene takes place with the Crystal Sea "mingled with fire"...but only after the Martyrs have been victorious over the Beast, his image and his mark. Also, the setting occurs after the 7 last Plagues had exhausted the patience of God. According to Daniel 7:9-10, His Throne is ablaze with fire and the Court is about to sit in judgment upon the Beast for killing these
    Martyrs. Daniel says "they present the Son of Man to the Ancient of Days"...and
    "Then the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony opens in heaven"!!

    Why do we find the Martyrs in the Temple long before it opens in Rev.15:5? They worship God and the Lamb in Rev.7:9 to Rev.8:5 and Rev.11:15-19 where Christ is crowned as King because "God's wrath has come".
    Dan.7:14; Rev.11:15-18. Here it says again: "The Temple was open". Rev.11:19
    and there were once again, as in Rev.4, "flashes of lightning, peals of thunder and voices...but now there is a "great earthquake and great hail..."
    and this is repeated immediately in Rev.16:18-21 because of God's wrath.
    The Temple "was open" in Rev.11:19 and it "was open" in Rev.15:5 AFTER
    the Plagues "manifest that God was righteous and just in His deeds" during
    the judgments of the Trumpets and Plagues. Now comes the Judgment of
    the Court in Heaven's Temple on the Day Christ will be crowned as King!!!

    When does God's Wrath begin?
    Mel Miller
     
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    Wrath towards whom? Unbelievers? Satan? The Anti-Christ? The False Prophet?
     
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    dawilson8655:

    Please read Rev.15:1-5; 11:18-19.

    God's "wrath comes at the 7th Trumpet to destroy those destroying the earth". This cannot happen until "the last Plague empties in the air"
    to fulfill Rev.15:8 because "no one enters the Temple in heaven while it is filled with the smoke of God's glory and power". John, in Rev.15:1-5, says the "temple of the tabernacle of testimony opens after the Plagues have manifested that God's deeds were holy and true in the Last Plagues" (Aorist Ind. past tense). Therefore, Trumpet #7 sounds after the Last Plague empties in the air; after the Martyrs sing the song of Moses that these Plagues had finished God's anger...i.e., His Patience" [thumos is part of macro-thumos; long-suffering; Patience]!

    The reason God's Patience continues during the Plagues is that "God is not willing that any should perish while the door is still open for "blasphemers to repent". They may "repent" during the Trumpets and Plagues. Rev.9:20-21; Rev.16:7-9. God allows them to gather to Armageddon while the Saints who "watch for Christ's coming as a thief are blessed"!! Rev.16:14-16.

    God's Wrath pours out to "destroy the armies that have killed a third of mankind during the 6th Trumpet and then have gathered to Armageddon in the 6th Plague". The Day of Wrath is a single 12-Hour Day that begins with the signs of the 6th Seal. The armies are gathered to Armageddon before God's wrath can be announced with the Temple "open" at the 7th Trumpet... Rev.11:19...for it opens after the Last Plague has demonstrated that God is merciful until His "Patience has been exhausted by the 7 Last Plagues"!!! [Rev.15:1-5 must take place before the Temple opens for a 3-Act Drama].
    Mel Miller
     
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    Are you teaching or asking?
     
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    Lastday

    I was answering a question about the objects of God's wrath. At the 7th
    Trumpet, the "appointed time for God's wrath", the proclamation is made
    that His wrath is directed toward "those who are destroying the earth". I
    don't see how one can answer a Biblical question unless he is a teacher.

    But my question remains: "When does the wrath of God begin"? It surely
    involves the 7th Trumpet after the armies are gathered to Armageddon.
    It first requires the "exhaustion of God's patience" by the 7 last Plagues
    before the "Signs of the Day of God's and the Lamb's Wrath" are seen.
    Mel
     

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