Featured The End of the NIV84?

There was an announcement that once the 1984 stock of bibles were sold out would not be any more printed to replace them, all left would be the 2011!

Always felt that the 1984 version was better, truer to original intent of authors of bible than the newere revisions!

 

I think you ought to go with the NIrV.

 

That is NOT TRUE...Thankfully

GT...That is simply NOT TRUE...I just pulled it up moments ago at the following BibleGateway.com link :

King James Version (KJV Bible) - Version Information - BibleGateway.com

I use it fairly frequently for posting Bible quotes here on the BB.

Bro.Greg:saint:

 

He replied to your quote about sticking with the KJV, but I think he was talking about the NIV 84 not being on biblegateway.com. No one will ever remove the KJV in the U.S. because there is no patent here like in the U.K. I don't understand anyone keeping a bible from someone that wants one, no matter the English translation. It it ain't about money, then why keep the patents? They will come out with it again after a certain year anniversary, you wait and see.

 

Ok, so Biblica owns the copyright to the NIV 84, but that doesn't answer the question why they are denying people the opportunity to read it online. I just sent them an email asking them why.

And you are right, the study notes in KJV study bibles have copyrights, but that is no big deal.

The NET bible also provides their bible online at no charge, which is great.

 

I remember when Coke thought they were gonna be smart and improve upon classic coke. They underestimated brand loyalty and it backfired bigtime. Now this is not quite the same as we are talking about translating the bible.

I personally do not think that taking away the NIV 84 to avoid controversy is a good reason. Their translation should have to withstand criticism like anything else. What you have told me here makes good business sense, just not good spiritual sense imo.

 

Think that the main reason made was to update to "reflect" subtle undercutting male authority, as many see the Bible as being too much into "male authority"

 

If someone likes the 84 so much there are plenty of used bookstores out there. I even have one or two that I would sell.

The translation in 84 was good but the TNIV and now NIV 2011 are better

 

How are they "better"? Explain.

 

Better means improved. The scholarship has fine-tuned things. The language has been put in more contemporary form. It is far better than the KJVish ESV and even the NASBU junior :HCSB.

 

You think the 2011 NIV has not ungone criticism?! Boy are you ever wrong. It goes double-time for the TNIV in the first decade of this century. Boycotts were in effect. World mag was very unChristian in their "reporting",Wayne Grudem was off the charts,L.Ryken was completely unglued,Wayne Dobson displayed his vast ignorance to a very large audience etc.etc.

 

actually would tend to see both of those versions as being superior to the Niv , at least in how they have decided to handle being mor e"formal/literal" in translating the bible unto us in english! Less dependent upon what it means to us today in our culture to more of trying to keep what it would have meant to them in biblical culture/times!

 

think that much of the criticism though was well deserved, as the Niv2011 "update" seemed to be more interested in getting the bible to be "more contemporary" rather than in retaining just what God had actually intended!

 

The whole reason you go through the painful process of translation and revision is to be more contemporary, more relevant because language changes and what was, is now no longer. The charge that they just wanted to be more contemporary instead of accurate is just plain nonsense since one is the other.

The NIV 1984 was dated in language usage and scholarship, it needed to be updated.

 

Then how in the world did the KJV last for over 400 years! Not only that, why, I believe people are actually still using it, and understanding it today! How can this possibly be, when the NIV has needed updating twice in less than 30 years! :laugh:

 

Then I must ask, how did people from even 50 years ago (our "modern culture" hasn't changed that much in 50 years) use and have no problems with the KJV? The whole "people just don't understand the KJV, and it's outdated for our modern society" mantra makes me chuckle. Use whatever version you like, just don't claim the KJV is outdated and can't be understood by people today. I'm 62 years old, grew up reading the KJV from the time I was 6 years old, and had no more problem understanding it than I did any other book I was learning to read. I just don't buy that excuse. People aren't any less intelligent now than they were when I was young, or for the last 150 years, while the KJV was the PREDOMINANT Bible version used. If children and adults from the last few hundred years could read and understand the KJV, don't tell me people today can't.