The funny NIV thread

thats more than silly...

1Jn:1:5: This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.


God IS Light. Its silly to think you must say well God could be darkness but He just chooses to be light...

 

Yup.Silliness abounds, but from the normally sane Mr Chemintz.....

 

He is light because he has not done that which is dark namely sin. I really don't see what is so silly about stating that God has chosen to do something and has done so perfectly. I could just as easily say that it is silly to try and put an infinite God in a box by saying that he can't do something.

I am not being silly, I am merely pointing out a major flaw in popular thinking concerning the attributes of God.

 

Okay now to the depths of silliness...

God COULD OF been Satan but He just chose to be God...


well you know what? He wouldnt be God if He were Satan. :laugh:


Oh yeah and not only that but God COULD BE hate, but He just chose to be love

 

By the way, have you ever noticed that the Devil's name has the word evil in it?

So one would think you'd pronouce his name

"The Deevil"

 

Shall I take it you mock because you are incapable of developing a reasoned response? Or is it that deep down you don't wish to admit you have been wrong?

 

chemitz,

that was supposed to be funny, you know, like a joke... I just thought of that the other day ...that the devil has the word evil in it... and thought it was interesting.

it has nothing at all to do with this discussion, just adding a little humor.... or at least trying to

 

It is nothing like that because I have an answer. God chooses not to lie it is not in his nature.

In fact your senerio that God is both all powerfull and cannot do something is exactly like the heavy rock question.

All Powerfull = can do anything.

 

Look this is easy if God has limits on what He can do then he is not ALL powerful.

The word ALL means there are no limits to His power.

 

xdx, you are leaning to your own understanding of scripture, failing to acknowledge Him.

The author and finisher of your faith is pure, a cognate of Holy. As pure, radiant, loving truth, God does not contemplate a lie, just as Jesus, in his manifestation as 100% God and 100% man, did not contemplate living anything other than a pure, radiant, loving life before us. He did not carry about the weight of choices.

Imagine yourself in the Alps in October, your face set existentially purposefully and permanently into the wind, without even the slightest hint of a milli-milli-second of "doing". Nothing, no thing, has the slightest chance of entering in to your presence there, not because you are resisting it, but because you are purposed. There is no difference between the "your" and "presence" there. They are one.

This thing of applying "choice" as an aspect of God's perfection is flawed. In God's perfection, all of everything has been subsumed in His Holiness ~~ He is Holy. Period. Nowhere in His Holiness is there a conversation about what choices He will make. God does not weigh, categorize, rationalize. His light shines brightly, steadfastly, without thought of source or ability or how long His light will last. He purposed before the foundation of the world. Think about that.

We cannot measure God. We cannot develop a list of attributes and apply them to Him. God is. He is. I AM. In Him there is no shadow of turning. Dig deeply into scripture after falling on your knees, asking God to heal your mental juggling. When that happens, you'll be another giant among the many in Christendom, providing healthy instruction to those who seek Him.

:flower:

 

I agree here also. "Choice" is not the right way to put it. God does not sit there and say should I lie or not and choose not to. He does not need to weigh choices like we do because along with being all powerfull He is all knowing and Holy.

But to say he CANNOT do something is also wrong even if He will never lie never even think of lieing never even consider for a milli milli second lieing being ALL powerful means he could lie.

He just will not.

 

Ok if you think God is not ALL powerfull then I guess we just disagre. I believe God is ALL powerful and not just kindof powerful.

God being ALL Powerfull can do whatever he wants. I am just glad he is Holy.

 

Also funny how you say that you do not think God is all powerful in your first sentence then warn me to be careful with my answer in the next. :laugh:

Xdisciple, I am just starting to read some of your other posts. Maybe you should hold off on judging my understanding of God's nature untill you get yourself squaired away.

To be clear. It is not in God's nature to lie or sin. His nature is Holy, but that does not limit His power. God can do anything but His nature is pure and holy.

 

Your quote is straight from Mormon theology. You are saying that He earned his Deity by being sinless. That also implies that if you could learn to become sinless you would become a god.

"God" is not a title. He can not loose his "God". He is God it is what He is no matter what He does.

Like I say it is good that He is Holy and Good.

 

You did say that under certain circumstances God would not be God. I just filled in the rest of that theology for you.

You lost me here. And God created Satan.

Here let me help you.

He will not lie because it goes against what he is. It's not IN him.