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The future of Midwestern and Golden Gate

Discussion in 'Baptist Colleges & Seminaries' started by Speedpass, Jul 26, 2003.

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  1. Speedpass

    Speedpass Active Member
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    Here's an interesting link I found regarding what could happen in the future.

    I know that both Midwestern and Golden Gate are the smallest SBC seminaries in terms of enrollment(plus they don't end up in the denominational "spotlight" like Southeastern, Southern, and Southwestern). However, I would not want to close Golden Gate since it is in the middle of the rather unevangelized West Coast; and it is a gateway to a large foreign mission field.

    Midwestern, on the other hand, I don't know how to answer. But based on a personal visit I made there in May 2002, I concluded that the atmosphere there was more like a Bible college and less of a theological seminary.

    Just my $0.02 :cool:
     
    #1 Speedpass, Jul 26, 2003
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    As most of the BB members are NOT SBC, we do not know much about the SBC seminaries (except for the main ones that in the "news" regularly).

    Would be glad to have you share more about the schools, where they stand on the fund/lib spectrum, impact on churches and region. Many, I don't even know where "midwestern" is??!!

    Only Midwestern I know from ifb was a second tier college in Pontiac, Michigan, that was a hyles type before Hyles was famous!

    Thanks for any added info!
     
    #2 Dr. Bob, Jul 26, 2003
  3. Speedpass

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    SBC Seminaries:

    Golden Gate: Mill Valley, CA(near San Francisco)
    Midwestern: Kansas City, MO
    New Orleans: New Orleans, LA
    Southeastern: Wake Forest, NC(near Raleigh)
    Southern: Louisville, KY
    Southwestern: Fort Worth, TX

    All six schools have fallen in line with the "resurgence" of recent years. All schools pledge allegiance to BFM2000. Additionally, Southern has a somewhat Calvinist/Reformed atmosphere. Prior to the "resurgance" Southern and Southeastern were the most liberal of the SBC institutions. However, Paige Patterson has helped Southeastern grow unprecidentally since the early 90's; he is now headed to Southwestern to possibly finish up his "career". Southern has also prospered during the past 10 years under Al Mohler's leadership. New Orleans, Southern, Southeastern, and Southwestern are among the largest schools. Midwestern and Golden Gate, in spite of their smaller enrollments, serve a vital role in the "mission fields" of the midwestern and western states, respectively.

    If you need any additional info, you can always go here
     
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    Although they are not officially SBC seminaries, Mid-America at Memphis and Liberty are quasi-SBC. Mid America always has been, and since Falwell has joined the SBC, Liberty is, well, sort of SBC.
     
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    Exxon, I have to say I think this is actually a fair and accurate assessment of the schools.
     
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    Couldn't you also make a similar case for Luther Rice Seminary, outside of Atlanta? Charles Stanley, Paige Patterson, et al, have all spoken highly of LRS.
     
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    Can you guys give me some info on Mid-America? I do not know much about it.

    Do they have a specialty? Good faculty? etc.
     
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    I've always heard Mid-America is a break-away from some conservatives from New Orleans Bap.Theological Seminary (Adrian Roders is one)when NOBTS was anything but conservative, I believe around the early 1970's.. They have a reputation of being conservative and I remember a friend telling me they were forced to go out and witness. Everyone I have seen come out of Mid-America has been strong and solid. However, reformed theology probably cannot be found their. (Everyone has to have a weakness however).
    Sincerely
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    There was some debate about even opening Midwestern and some of those out in the west wanted the school located in Denver. Hindsight says that this would have been the right place considering all the seminaries that have located there in the past few years with major extensiton centers.
    If they choose to close the schools I say follow the money! Both schools are on prime real estate and would be a huge windfall for the remaining four schools. There is some talk about merging Golden Gate and Midwestern and moving the school to Denver with a new campus and such. But that still means there is going to be plenty of money left to assure that the resurgance continues. Not that I want it to or anything, but I try and live in reality as much as possible [​IMG]
     
    #9 go2church, Jul 31, 2003
  10. Jennifer

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    I am not sure what you meant about a second tier school like Hyles :confused: but the Midwestern Baptist College in Pontiac is where I will be attending this fall [​IMG] . It is a small school if that's what you mean but it is close to home and it is solid in it's preaching and standards and that is what I am most concerned with... Wish me luck! [​IMG]
     
    #10 Jennifer, Aug 2, 2003
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    According to a friend of mine who earned his M.Div. and PhD at Mid America, the fellows who teach systematic theology are 5-point calvinists.
     
    #11 Major B, Aug 2, 2003
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    And this surprises well....anyone! :rolleyes:

    If we have learned anything about "rumors" and the SBC leadership....the Midwestern profs should be looking for a new job!

    Honsetly the SBC leadership seems to have adopted the Clinton tactic of floating a "rumor" then see how it flys with the public then make the move, exactly how the "rumor" said.
     
    #13 go2church, Aug 4, 2003
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