The GOP Is Dying Off. Literally.

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    This is not really new news, but it is an area that has not received much attention.

     
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    "the GOP is attracting fewer first-time voters."

    and that is probably true.
    The GOP thinks you should earn your college degree, not have the govt* pay for it
    The GOP thinks you should work for a living, it is not the govt's *responsibility to provide you with an income for just sitting at home.
    The GOP believes in morals -
    The GOP believes in balancing the budget
    The GOP believes in unions - but Coercion should not be used.
    The GOP believes that life begins at conception.
    The GOP believes that voter fraud should be prohibited; and only American citizens should be allowed to vote.
    The GOP believes in the 10th Amendment.
    The GOP believes it is unnecessary to have burdensome regulatory, contracting and capital barriers.


    So exactly, what part of the GOP platform is wrong?

    * more specifically - hard working taxpayers.​


     
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    And that is the key to winning future elections. Your list is an interesting one whether others agree with your not. But it is off-topic. If the GOP does not change in some way to attract new voters it will gradually fade away as a viable political party.

    I expect the GOP will change as the good old white folk die off. There may be some spinning in graves, but I do expect them to change.

    Here is an interesting chart.

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    Then they will no longer be Republicans - aka conservatives.

    Using that same logic, you would have to admit that the church must change its message to bring in more people.
    Sure, stop believing in Hell, stop believing that we should give financial offerings, start believing that shacking up is acceptable, start believing that it is acceptable to ordain hom0sexuals, ......
    Sure, more people may start attending, but you might as well take the word "church" out of your name.
     
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    You touch on two good topics that I will start a new thread on.

    1-What is conservative versus just plain mean or selfish. I feel many who call themselves conservative are simply mean or selfish and not really conservative.

    2. On the church, we do not have to change the message but we must change the method of presenting the message.
     
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    The Democrats have the old candidates: Biden, Sanders, Hillary. Cherokee Woman is no spring chicken either. Hillary is one of those one percenters, having made $25,000,000 last year.
     
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    The OP is not talking about the age of politicians but the age of voters.
     
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    Stop reading my mind CTB. :laugh: Some folks have definitely confused conservative with what you have described. That might as well be the motto of the GOP:

    The GOP:Just good,old-fashioned mean and nasty!

    AMEN.:thumbsup:
     
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    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=99735

    Many who call themselves conservative are authoritarians who like the authoritarians who call themselves liberal see bigger more intrusive government as a way to slap more controls on the "other side" and everyone that thinks differently or holds opinions different to theirs.

    There's is no argument over whether or not something is constitutional or in the best interest of all Americans. There's only arguments over who's going to control what.

    It's all about control. We have a government made up of control freaks.
     
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    People can be willing to help other people and be hard working taxpayers too.

    The education model in the US is just wrong. This is why India and other nations are getting so many IT jobs. We want the jobs to help the economy , but nobody in the GOP wants to help educate or train the work force.

    I wonder what percentage of the folks in the GOP got help from the government to pay for school?
     
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    That's why I'm all for term limits. Since Congress won't do it, states should pass a law that says Senators will not be listed on the ballot more than once. Congressmen, two times for a total of 4 years.

    If the states won't do it, we need to institute voter-imposed term limits. You serve one time and we don't vote for you again no matter how great a job you've done.
     
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    Democrats have a demographic problem in 2016

    A report by Daniel J. McGraw in this weekend’s Politico brings rigorous data analysis–i.e. “quick back-of-the-napkin math”–to bear on the GOP’s demographic “problem”: namely, that Republican voters tend to be old, so more of them are dying. (If you are a Democrat, this is not a problem, as death has historically posed no real impediment to voting.) Yet the real demographic problem in 2016 is not the age of Republican voters: rather, it is the age of the Democratic candidates.

    As RealClearPolitics noted in a recent infographic, Hillary Clinton is older than the entire Republican field. Furthermore, with one exception (Martin O’Malley), every potential Democratic presidential candidate is older than every single GOP contender. The oldest Republican (potentially) in the race is former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who is only in his mid-60s. If Democrats are hoping to bring millennials back to the polls, they have to find some way to inject youth into the race.

    In fact, Republicans have already started to claw back among the younger generation. In 2014, Democrats still won the millennial vote, but only with 55 percent, as opposed to the 65 percent margin that McGraw uses in his calculations. Admittedly, that compares a midterm election with a presidential election. Still, as recently as 2000, the youth vote split 47-47 between Bush and Gore, suggesting that there really is a path back to parity for the right Republican with the right message.

    McGraw’s mistake is to imagine that voting behavior is static–that demography is destiny.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/18/democrats-have-a-demographic-problem-in-2016/
     
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    I guess that Crabby thinks that Hill, who suffered a concussion and a blood clot but recovered enough to make $25,000,000 last year, appeals to young people who think that elderly one percenters rule. No doubt but that Sanders is totally popular with young people who like socialistic politicians. And don't forget young Uncle Joe Biden, who makes Howard Dean seem somehow sane.
     
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    Selfish, mean and nasty doesn't curry well with the young folks. The GOP brand is so damaged nationally that the Dems could run Methusaleh and still handily beat any GOP candidate.

    Not to mention the hand of God being against so-called GOP Christian conservatives who continue in their unrepentant wickedness against God.

    Just like He did with His people Israel, we shall continue to get more of what we don't want because of the wickedness we refuse to recognize.
     
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    Don't be so hard on yourself. You still have a bright future at Belief Net where your liberal theology reigns supreme.
     
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    He is just a confused young man who is trying to feel his way in the world. He tries hard but lacks life's experiences to really know what is going on.
     
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    I don't know about all that.

    He's seems to be able to understand that corporate special interests have both parties in their pockets.

    Democrats are in their left pocket and republicans are in their right pocket.

    You guys haven't reached that level of understanding yet. :type:
     
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    Fascinating...
    So very fascinating and revealing that you see education's primary goal as a way to "train a workforce."

    What you just said is so prescient in such an amazing way.
    Hind-sight is indeed 20-20.

    It appears the founders of the American Public Education system have "trained" you just as they intended. Exactly as they planned; "training" a "workforce".

    Nice :thumbs:
     
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    It turns out that as people grow older they also outgrow liberalism and become conservative. So it is really the Democrats who are in trouble because they have nothing but old liberals running and no bench and no one around in the states. Even Gov. Brown of California is old.

    And the millennials are deserting the Democrats because of the bad economy so that the Democrat base is shrinking among young people.
     
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    With "conservativism" being defined as embarrassing big government and authoritarian rule. Like say for example . . . Chris Christie and Marco Rubio.

    http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/05/18/chris-christie-calls-snowden-supporters-civil-liberties-extremists-in-his-latest-desperate-neocon-diatribe/

    But not like those slimy liberals . . . who've embarrassed big government and authoritarian rule without "good" reason. Like being frightened.

    Yeah won't be long before the democrats are falling asleep watching Faux Snews to.

    Or because their attention span is less than that of a goldfish . . .

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1359726-microsoft-study-proves-tech-caused-attention-spans-shorter-goldfish/

    The GOP doesn't have much use for a republican form of government anymore, most of them are more into empowering the police state, expanding the empire and nation building now.
     
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