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Why do you ignore the rest of the book and think that a simple forward can answer all your questions?

 

A New Age author sent me a personal email today and asking that I read her book. I replied and said I would read her book if she read Invasion of other gods which is a good rebuttal on the New Age movement. I have yet to hear a reply. So I will say to you. If you will honestly read Faith Works, Gospel According to jesus and such with an open mind, then I will read your book.

 

The devils do indeed have a faith and I was reading what Reisinger said of that in my reading today and he affirmed it that the devils do indeed have faith, but its not saving faith.

 

Ray's version of LS is not the same as Mac's. Ray may have an arminian version of LS. Ray is a great teacher, but probably not a calvinist.

 

Okay boy's time for me to take a break and watch some old Black and White. I just love the old classics! Yeah from the 1930's - 1960's rocks! I will post a reply soon James, but I just can't be thinking about theology all the time as its not healthy. Need balance.... Perhaps others here should get some black and white movies/TV shows and watch them.

 

Quotes

So Great a Salvation Quotes

Neither dedication nor willingness to be dedicated to Christ is an issue in salvation (74)

Christians may fall into a state of lifelong carnality. A whole category of "carnal christians"-born again people who continuously live like the unsaved--exists in the church (31, 59-60)

Disobedience and prolonged sin are no reason to doubt the reality of one's faith (48)

Absolutely Free Quotes

Submission is not in any sense a condition for eternal life (172)

Calling on the Lord means appealing to Him, not submitting to Him (193-195)

Nothing guarantees that a true christian will love God (130-131) Salvation does not necessarily even place the sinner in a right relationship of harmonious fellowship with God (145-160)

Genuine believers might even cease to name the name of Christ or confess christianity (111)

Balancing the Christian Life Quotes

Reading pages 178-179 he is talking about Peter in Acts 10:14 and Barnabas in Acts 15:39

Acts 10:14 (ESV) But Peter said, “By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.

Acts 15:39 (NIV)
They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus,

Ryrie's conclusion is that both these men rejected the Lordship of Christ as it would appear according to Ryrie one must be perfectly submitted in all areas of his life in order to b saved, but Ryrie does not understand LS very well as this is false.

Both John MacArthur and Paul Washer have clearly stated that a submitted Christian will fall into sin but he will continue to repent.

"Those with true faith will fail--and in some cases, frequently--but a genuine believer will, as a pattern of life, confess his sin and come to the father for forgiveness (1 John 1:9)" The Gospel According to Jesus 1988 version (192)

Christians do sin and do disobey.

Phil 3:12-15 (NKJV)
Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. 13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.15 Therefore let us, as many as are mature, have this mind; and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal even this to you.

James 3:2 (NKJV)
For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body.

NIV & ESV make this more clear by saying that we stumble in many ways which is very true of those holding to LS. But I think a key problem to those that do not understand LS is that they think that a Christian must be completely surrendered in all areas of life to be saved and by their logic LS is works based salvation. But this is false. LS is not works based salvation it is submission to Christ as Lord which is expected of anyone that claims Him as Lord. People that reject LS will believe that all that is required of salvation is saying a prayer and then they do not need to change, but if God has granted faith and repentance to the elect than He will also enable the elect to live in obedience and submit to His lordship. But there are many these days that do not submit to the Lordship of Christ so are they saved? I do not know as perhaps sometime later in their lives they will submit as only God knows whom the elect are. Ray Comfort thinks that if he cannot see fruit at that one time then they are false converts, but his version of LS differs from Mac's as Mac says that only God knows whom His elect are and are not.

James I do not claim to have this all figured out as this apparently is a very academic discussion that people whom are far more educated and smarter than me have failed to comprehend. But I do lean and believe that LS is the most biblical position. Does this mean Ryrie is a false convert? Absolutely not as he has written some very good theology books and loves Jesus as his savior.