THE IMMACULATE CONCEPTION - MARY BORN WITHOUT ORIGINAL SIN???

Jude · Feb 12, 2004

Originally posted by Ben Mills SsBG:
I really wish that people would not make Mary God and only worship Hashem.
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Nowhere, in any Roman Catholic, Orthodox or Anglican sources can you find WORSHIP of Mary promoted.

Jude · Feb 12, 2004

A_Christian · Feb 12, 2004

Hey Jude:

The Roman Catholic church certainly has alot of statues and do-dads celebrating someone you claim isn't worshipped. Let's see----rose windows represent what? The color blue means what?

BobRyan · Feb 13, 2004

Some have argued that "you never find us worshipping Mary".

For in support of that you will NEVER find anything like the Following praise and worship to God given to Mary.

For example see what “we do not find” among our Catholic sources…

"Enraptured by the splendor of your heavenly beauty and impelled by the anxieties of the world, we cast ourselves into your arms, Oh Merciful King and also to Mary our Mother....we adore and praise the peerless richness of the sublime gifts with which God has filled you above every other mere creature, from the moment of conception until the day on which after your ascension into heaven, He crowned you King of Kings. Oh crystal fountain of
faith, bathe our hearts with your heavenly perfume. Oh Conqueror of evil and death, inspire in us a deep horror of sin which makes the soul detestable to God and the slave of hell. Oh well-beloved of God, hear the ardent cries which rise up from every heart in this year dedicated to you. Then tenderly, Oh Father, cover our aching wound; convert the wicked, dry the tears of the afflicted and the oppressed. Comfort the poor and humble. Quench hatred,
sweeten harshness, safeguard the flower of purity and protect the Holy Church. In your name resounding harmoniously in heaven, may they recognize that all are brothers...Receive, Oh heavenly Father our humble supplications and above all, obtain for us that on that day, happy with you, we may repeat before your throne that hymn which is sung today around your altars. You are beautiful Oh God. You are Glory Oh Father. You are the joy, you are the Honor of
our people." – Not Pope Pius XII, celebration of the Marian Year in Rome, 1950
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In this form it would appear that all this praise, prayer, honor, veneration and glory applies to Mary and would even at that small level be a gross error.

So -- we sure are glad that it is not out there.

In Christ,

Bob

BobRyan · Feb 13, 2004

However - to "correct" that quote so that it IS "exactly" what we do find the Papal authority saying -- all we have to do is remove all the references to God - and replace them with references to Mary.

Here is the correct quote...

"Enraptured by the splendor of your heavenly beauty and impelled by the anxieties of the world, we cast ourselves into your arms, Oh Immaculate Mother of Jesus and our Mother....we adore and praise the peerless richness of the sublime gifts with which God has filled you above every other mere creature, from the moment of conception until the day on which after your assumption into heaven, He crowned you Queen of the Universe. Oh crystal fountain of
faith, bathe our hearts with your heavenly perfume. Oh Conqueress of evil and death, inspire in us a deep horror of sin which makes the soul detestable to God and the slave of hell. Oh well-beloved of God, hear the ardent cries which rise up from every heart in this year dedicated to you. Then tenderly, Oh Mary, cover our aching wound; convert the wicked, dry the tears of the afflicted and the oppressed. Comfort the poor and humble. Quench hatred,
sweeten harshness, safeguard the flower of purity and protect the Holy Church. In your name resounding harmoniously in heaven, may they recognize that all are brothers...Receive, Oh sweet Mother our humble supplications and above all, obtain for us that on that day, happy with you, we may repeat before your throne that hymn which is sung today around your altars. You are beautiful Oh Mary. You are Glory Oh Mary. You are the joy, you are the Honor of
our people." - Pope Pius XII, celebration of the Marian Year in Rome, 1950
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In Christ,

Bob

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