A free-will advocate said in another thread that God's sovereign will cannot be thwarted (my paraphrase). I find this statement fascinating because arminianism essentially states the following: 1. It is God's will that everyone be saved. (God is not willing that any person who ever lives should perish.) 2. Man can override that will by refusing to be saved. So it occurred to me that, instead of the calvinist general call and effective call, arminian soteriology describes an impotent will and a sovereign will. 1. His impotent will that everyone be saved. 2. His powerful, sovereign will to leave the pivotal decision in the hands of those He has clearly described as having turned astray, never seek God, altogether useless, who never do good, no not one.