The Judgement

There's more than one final judgment, so I can't answer.

 

There are three judgements.. More if you count the Cross, and self judgement... but 3 main ones....

Great White throne.. for the lost
Judgment Seat of Christ .... for the saved
Judgment of nations... on how they treat Israel during the Great Tribulation...

 

It is my understanding that believers are never referred to as "the dead."

Here is info about the Bema Seat - the judgment seat of Christ for believers (only an excerpt from a longer article)

Source: http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=407

 

Jesus spoke of one Judgement where all that are in the grave shall come forth, unto them that have done good the resurrection of life, unto them that have done evil, the resurrection of damnation.

When you come out of the grave, take a notice to which way you are going and to what you hear, if you hear Him say come ye blessed of my Father and you are accending up to the Lord, you will be praising His name and you have been judged worthy of eternal life. If on the other hand, you see the saved going up, but you are going in a different direction, woe unto you, for you have been judged unworththy of eternal life and are on your way to the Lake of Fire.

You make the decision here, who you shall serve. When Jesus leaves Heaven to come and pass judgement, He already knows the fate of all. If you name is not in that Lamb's Book of Life, which they are written before Jesus leaves Heaven coming down, if your name is not written there, you will here Him say, depart from me ye worker of iniquity. Oh, men will cry, but I have prophesied in thy name, but He will say depart, I never knew you.

They can talk about all these judgements all they want, but when the Lord comes, He will either receive you or tell you to depart. That is the Judgement.

Do you all really believe that some can plead their case in that day, when Jesus said if you die in your sins, where I am you cannot come.

You stand before Christ everyday of your lives and judged according as your works are good or bad.

BBob,

 

Well, thanks, you have a point.

But Rev. 20 talks about being judged based on your works. Believers will not be judged based on their works.

Maybe amillienists and postmillienists believe in only one judgment?

 

Jesus taught me there would be one! at the "end times". Now are we being judged now, sure we are.

Jhn 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Jhn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

BBob,

 

And what about the judgment in Matthew 25?

 

I am so surprised at these answers. Has Baptist doctrine changed? I thought most baptists believed in at least 3 judgments - some more.

At the very least, I thought all baptists believed in at least 2 judgments - that of the saved and that of the unsaved.

 

Marcia, where do you see the difference??

Matt; 25
46: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

vs

Jhn 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

If God did either one, would it not take care of the other at the same time?

BBob,

 

The difference is in the content of Matthew 25: many say it is a judgment on how Israel was treated. Verse 32 mentions "nations" gathered before Jesus rather than the "dead" or some other term.

Also, who is Jesus referring to when He says "brothers" here?

Many believe that "brothers" refers to the Jewish people.

Have you heard this but you disagree, or have you never heard it? I've heard it quite a bit.

Also, my pastor has preached on the topic of judgment(s) and he definitely preaches that there is more than one judgment!

 

You can not cherry pick to come up with scripture to fit one's theology. You must take it all.

It plainly says "all nations". I do not know who says, it was just Israel, He was talking about. But whoever, did not read the whole scripture, or refused to accept it.

BBob,

 

I'm a Panjudgmentalist...

Simply put, while the Bible speaks of noless than three judgments, I am confident of one thing, our eventual Judgment will "pan" out in due time. :laugh:

While I am not in a hurry to get to any of these judgments, it is my belief that many of us, have already been judged, and it is that sense of judgment that caused us to accept Jesus, and follow Him. :saint:

Shalom,

Pastor Paul:type:

 

I think we all have and are being judged everyday of our lives, if not why the chatisement.

We are saved or unsaved and Salvation is of the Lord. He knows who is worthy of salvation and who is not in this life.

The Ironic thing is that the names will be already enrolled in the Lamb's book of Life, when Jesus comes back in the cloud of Glory, so what are these 3 judgements for, if the Lord already has the list. Don't make sense to me.

Is there anyone who believes the list will be made after the Lord leaves Heaven, coming back for His Bride and pass judgement on the rest.

We are talking of the end, when Jesus will separate the sheep from the goats.



BBob,

 

I'm not trying to make the Bible fit my beliefs because I'm still figuring all this out. However, I highly respect the men who say there is more than one judgment and I can see why they say it.

You never answered my question as to whom Jesus means when he says "my brother" in Matt. 25. It does not mean brother in Christ for sure: I am assuming it means a Jewish brother.

 

What about judgment of Christians for rewards? Do you believe in that? I can post the verses that support it.

 

It would be better if you post scripture, then I could give you a correct answer.
God is no respect of persons. We will all receive our just reward according as our works have been.
1. Eternal life

or

2 Eternal damnation

I can't find where my crown will be any smaller or greater than anyone else's that is saved.

BBob,