The Keating Five

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  1. Bro. Curtis

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    I see Obama has released a 10-miniute video criticizing McCain for his involvement in this scandal.

    Even though the dems themselves exonerated McCain, McCain has been on record saying it was a mistake to let any suspicion arise around him.....good for Obama.

    Cuz we now know that he thinks past associations are important, and old issues should be closely examined.....
     
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    Very good catch Bro Curtis. According to Obama the past is usable against him too, whether true or not, provable or not, or whether the facts support something else or not.
     
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    Big mistake by Obama. To go back this far is a mistake. To break your word is a mistake. To go negative when you have the momentum is a mistake. Could be a huge blunder. Either way, it shows that politics as usual is just what we're getting in Mr. Obama.
     
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    Welkl, McCain and Palin seem to want to tie Obama to an anti-war activist whose heyday was when Obama was 8 years old. What's the difference. Let the games begin.
     
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    The McCain campaign is pathetic. The world economy is collapsing in front of our very eyes and McCain wants to talk about a load of nonsense. McCain reminds me of Nero who, it is said, fiddled while Rome burned.

    If McCain keeps ignoring the biggest issue concerning voters - the economy - he will continue to slide in the polls - and deservedly so.

    If McCain can't run a decent campaign then he certainly has no business occupying the White House - and he won't.
     
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    McCain is down by 6% in the most recent poll. The electorate want to hear new ideas about pulling us out of this Bush depression, not personal attacks. Since that's about all Palin can do I'll excuse her for doing this. She doesn't have the experience or ability to run anything other than a negative campaign.
     
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    No, it's not. Just ask John Kerry. If he had answered back to the Swiftboat tactics in August 2004 I think he would have defeated George W. Bush. He almost did anyway.
     
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    Obama is desperate to bring this up. McCain was exonerated, and admitted his mistakes. In an examination of personal histories, Obama has a lot more to hide than McCain.
     
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    The "fiddle" hadn't been invented when Rome burned. Interesting thing though, Nero blamed the destruction on the Christians, much as Obama blames it on the Republicans.

    Why do you feel McCain is "ignoring" this issue when he has done no less than Obama? Has Obama given a single specific plan of any sort to fix the economy? Obama wouldn't even put off a debate from Friday to Monday to go to Washington to try to work out a solution with congress. Then he tried to take credit for the first bailout plan saying he "called every day." Of course, he stopped claiming credit when that bailout fell through, and found out voters were against the bailouts.

    Here's news for you: the candidates don't run their campaigns....they have people they call...get this...Campaign Managers who do that! Whoa nelly! Throw on some Bluegrass, Jethro!
     
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    Baptist Believer, Obama was NOT 8 when he became an associate with this person...Good grief.
     
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    "Imagine, no possessions...."
     
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    If Barack Obama is so outraged at John McCain’s involvement in the Keating Five scandal, why is John Glenn, another Keating Five member, doing surrogate work for Obama?
    Obama’s presidential campaign released a scathing documentary on Monday detailing McCain’s ties to the Savings and Loan crisis on the 1980’s. Five U.S. senators were named in the scandal: Sen. Alan Cranston (D.-Calif.), Sen. Dennis DeConcini (D.-Ariz.), Sen. John Glenn (D.-Ohio), Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.) and Sen. Donald Reigle (D-Minn.).
    "The Keating scandal is eerily similar to today's credit crisis, where a lack of regulation and cozy relationships between the financial industry and Congress has allowed banks to make risky loans and profit by bending the rules," reads a trailer for the video on a website created by the Obama campaign to attack McCain, www.keatingeconomics.com. "And in both cases, John McCain's judgment and values have placed him on the wrong side of history.
    But Obama doesn’t seem to have any quarrel with Glenn. The former Democratic Ohio senator introduced Bruce Springsteen at a benefit concert for Obama in Ohio on Sunday, October 5. He's also done other surrogate work for Obama as well. According to Obama's presidential website Glenn held a conference calls with reporters for Obama in August.
    A day after Glenn urged people to register to vote for Obama in Ohio, Obama’s campaign began a multimedia campaign to remind the public McCain was one of the “Keating Five” although he was eventually cleared of all charges.
    Like McCain, Glenn was also found not guilty of violating any Senate rules.
    Attorney John Dowd, who represented McCain during the Senate Ethics investigation, said Senate Democrats conducted a "classic political smear job" on McCain in the Keating Five scandal.
    "When it was discovered Keating was pushing too hard, he [McCain] threw Keating out of his office and ended all relations with him," Dowd said.



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    McCain's lawyer: Keating investigation had ‘no merit’ By Sam Youngman Posted: 10/06/08 02:10 PM [ET] Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s lawyer during the Keating Five scandal said Monday that the inquiry brought about by the Senate Ethics Committee had “no merit,” and he reiterated that the panel cleared the Arizona senator “completely.” John Dowd, on a conference call with reporters arranged by the McCain campaign, said he is not surprised the case has resurfaced after 20 years, but he does not agree with Sen. McCain’s (Ariz.) acknowledgment of the appearance of impropriety, saying he thinks what McCain did “was very appropriate.”

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    The case, which involved McCain and four Democratic senators and their involvement with savings and loan scandal figure Charles Keating, has been pushed back into the news by the campaign of Democratic nominee Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.), who has questioned McCain’s association with Keating.
    On Monday, Obama's campaign launched a Web documentary questioning McCain’s involvement in the scandal.
    Dowd said because of the size of Keating's bank in Arizona, McCain had a duty to be involved, but the Arizona senator "threw Keating out of his office" when the banker pushed hard for McCain's interference.
    "Charlie Keating was an important constituent in Arizona that employed 2,000 people, and that's a constituency you pay attention to," Dowd said.
    While the committee did clear McCain, it said that he showed poor judgment in his dealings with Keating, something Dowd disputed Monday.
    "I understand why John feels the way he does," Dowd said. "This was an embarrassing and humiliating matter."
    Dowd called the hearings a "political stunt," adding that Democratic leadership "colored the hearings."
     
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    Wow! The McCain folks are looking absolutely desperate. They are backing a LOSER! :laugh:
     
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    Like I said,this opens Obama up for legit criticism of his past, Ayers, Hatewhitey Wright,etc.....
     
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    Do what you and your other anti-Obama folks desire, Bro. Curtis. The plain fact is that John McCain is a LOSER now and willl be so on November 4.
     
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    Perhaps, then we will have a guy who used to pal around with subversives who hate America in the White House.

    Nice job with that. Hopefully, they'll be enough people who do love the country to throw this liberal leftist litigating liar back to the senate, and pray he doesn't do too much damage there.
     
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    Didn't John Lennon write a song like that, all new aged and everything.
     
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    this shows how much of a looser obama is
    Your being played, it only matters to obama about McCain , but not keating 5, means nothing unless he can use it. It shows how desperate he is. of course he has over looked the fact, he just gave us all permission to use his past, and his past associations against him also. And to think I was willing to over look past associations. But if he can bring them up about anyone else, anyone else can bring them up about him.
    now what was that about kenya and claiming to be a muslim.
     

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