The KJV.....

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Which one do you believe?

  1. The KJV is the PERFECT translation.

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  2. The KJV is the ACCURATE translation.

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  1. Askjo

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    Any of you believe that "the KJV ....." Please look at the poll concerning the KJV. I would like to see how many vote on the KJV.
     
  2. Ed Edwards

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    Boycotting polls that
    don't include all possible answers.
    Come on, all you have to do
    is put "other, specify". Then no
    matter what they think, they can
    answer. I find the KJV to be both
    perfect and accurate. So i cannot vote
    in your poll.

    BTW, I find the KJV1611 to be both
    perfect and accurate. The KJV1769
    is perfecter and accurater.
    The KJV1873 is perfectest and accuratest.

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  3. Precepts

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    Ed, Either way you would have voted would have been either perfectly accurate or accurately perfect.


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  4. Ed Edwards

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    It is called an
    exclusive "or". "Exclusive or" means
    one or the other but not both.
    Well i want the inclusive or option:
    both are true at the same time.


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  5. Precepts

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    What really scares me Ed, is we're just too much alike, but then I guess being scared has its benefits.

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  6. Ed Edwards

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    :eek: /ed looks around,
    then ed eeks off ... / :eek:
     
  7. robycop3

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    The poll simply didn't have any correct choices. We've proven repeatedly that the KJV isn't perfect. And while it's "A" fairly accurate translation, it's NOT "THE" accurate translation. There are plenty of others.
     
  8. HankD

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    Define "perfect"
    Define "accurate".
    Define "KJV" (which edition, with or without the Apocrypha).

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  9. Ephesus23

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    The KJV is the perfect translation to me. I don't even prefer to call it a translation, since it is THE Bible...all the rest were translated from the KJV.
     
  10. dianetavegia

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    So? The very first Bible ever given was given in the 16th century?
    :rolleyes:
     
  11. russell55

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    This is just not true. The reason they are called TRANSLATIONS is because they are translated from a different language, namely the Hebrew and Greek texts.
     
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    Hooooolllllllyyyyyy COW!!! Your profile says that your a college student going to a church pastored by a "Doctor". May I recommend you study this subject a little further?

    I will honestly say that I thought close to the same thing when I was 18. Please do some research. None of the other English versions were translated from the KJV.
     
  13. Johnv

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    Where did you get that info from? It's blatantly false. With the exception of the NKJV and MKJV, other translations did not use the KJV as a literary source. Rather they used the ancient Greek manuscripts as their sources, and in some cases, the exact same source texts that hte KJV used.

    The KJV is a translation, no more, no less. Other translations are also translations, no more, no less.

    I'm glad it's the perfect translation FOR YOU... May God bless you through your use of it. But that is not so for all Christians everywhere, and has never been so.
     
  14. Dr. Bob

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    You hit on something, Johnv - the premise of Postmodernism would be that what is truth for YOU may not be truth for ME. There is no absolute, no authority.

    So following that illogic, the KJV is "truth for some", but not for all. Maybe the "only" sect is on to something - they are fighting against post-modernity - and just are not arguing it correctly.

    They should be going for TRonly or such - to the beginning, that there is an absolute standard and truth. That would rest on the Greek/Hebrew.

    Just 'thinking out loud' here. But it is helping me see a possible mindset and rationale behind the "only" sect.

    Thoughts?
     
  15. Dan Todd

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    Most of us (whether we want to admit it or not) have our idols! Whenever I read men like Ruckman and consider there arguments (more like ranting and raving) - I come to the conclusion that his idol is the KJV!

    I grew up with the KJV - I enjoy the Psalms most when reading the KJV - but it's just a translation (a pretty good one) of the Bible.

    As a young preacher - I was invited to a neighboring town to hear an evangelist. While talking to him after the service - I must have mentioned that I am not a KJVO. The next night - part of the message was a section on KJVO (in dogmatic favor of it - that is!). Who do you suppose that message was being aimed at?

    The other thing I remember about the evangelist (and it's not his name) is that when ever he was about to make an important point - he would preface it with "you better hang on to your seat!"

    Dan - just a few of my thoughts!
     
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    There are too many people in that camp already! :(
     
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    Who taught you that?
     
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    They all resort back to the KJB, you know that.
     
  19. Watchman

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    So? The very first Bible ever given was given in the 16th century?
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    </font>[/QUOTE]Ephesus23:
    Now that is a statement that I haven't heard from even the most avid KJVO. If that was, supposedly, from your pastor, perhaps you misunderstood. I see your Pastor has "Dr." in front of his name, as such he should know better. If that IS his view, his Doctorate must be in basket weaving, not Theology!
    Diane:
    This is trivial I know; But dates in the 1600's was the 17th Century.
    As to the original post I did not vote because of the limited answers. None of us has the original autographs so none of us knows exactly what is in them. I do believe that God has preserved His word through the ages in the Greek texts and the King James is an English translation made from the Greek (Textus Receptus to be exact.) It is perfect for us to learn who God is and what His will for us is. It is then, indeed perfect. But is it the only one that can be classed as perfect? Well, that is the debate here isn't it?

    [ February 13, 2004, 02:17 AM: Message edited by: Watchman ]
     
  20. Johnv

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    Good thought process... you may be on to something. Of course, I wasn't referring to "truth for you and not for me" concept. Rather, I was referring to simply what "works
    for one may not "work" for another. Postmodernism in that sense is perfectly fine. Not everyone has to like brown, and there's no sin against liking blue. Absolute truth, however, is not affected by postmodernism... but you already knew that, so we're a'singin' out of the same hymnal there.
     

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