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The KJV.....

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Askjo, Feb 11, 2004.

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Which one do you believe?

  1. The KJV is the PERFECT translation.

    13 vote(s)
    100.0%

  2. The KJV is the ACCURATE translation.

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    0.0%
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  1. HankD

    HankD Well-Known Member
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    Get your tongue out of your cheek! [​IMG]

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    #21 HankD, Feb 13, 2004
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    Does that include the Geneva Bible of 1560?
     
    #22 robycop3, Feb 13, 2004
  3. HankD

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    Yes, for lack of a better phrase it's the opposite of "advanced revelation".

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  4. Askjo

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    The PERFECT KJV vs the ACCURATE KJV

    The Perfect KJV -- 50%

    The Accurate KJV -- 50%

    I viewed the results of poll today -- 3/2/04.

    WOW! They are tied!!!!
     
    #24 Askjo, Mar 2, 2004
  5. DeafPosttrib

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    Askjo,

    I break the tied! :D

    I voted it, 'accurate translation'.

    But, I think this poll is not make sense to me.

    The defintion of accurate means correct.

    I think in your mind, it means KJV is 'regular' translation. Am I correct?

    In Christ,
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
    #25 DeafPosttrib, Mar 2, 2004
  6. Ed Edwards

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    Still boycotting this deficient poll... [​IMG]
     
    #26 Ed Edwards, Mar 2, 2004
  7. Askjo

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    Nothing wrong with poll. Do you understand what difference between "perfect" and "accurate"?
    Accurate means: "In exact conformity to truth, or to a standard or rule, or to a model; free from failure, error, or defect; as an accurate account; accurate measure; an accurate expression"
    No, please ask your mom or brother or sister about the word meaning, "accurate." I hope they will explain to you by using sign language. You will understand what I mean. [​IMG]
     
    #27 Askjo, Mar 2, 2004
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    Yes, there IS something wrong with the poll-it says, "*THE* accurate translation", implying that there are no other accurate translations.
     
    #28 robycop3, Mar 3, 2004
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    word, 'accurate' is both mean correct, and free from error.

    I read Ruckman's book, he said, KJV corrects Greek translation.

    I disagree.

    KJV is the only TRANSLATION, not correct or perfect either. 1611 A.V. translated come from Greek/Hebrew language, that's all. 1611 A.V. does not correct Greek or Hebrew's error.

    Understand?

    Still, I think this poll does not make a sense to me.

    In Christ
    Rev. 22:20 - Amen!
     
    #29 DeafPosttrib, Mar 6, 2004
  10. Askjo

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    You are right, but the word, "Accurate" has a FEW meanings. Which meaning of "accurate" do I talk about?

    Please read again what I said about the meaning of accurate.

    Look at the word, conformity-- this word means fact of being in agreement. This meaning means TRUE.

    Well, the KJV is an accurate (true) translation.

    Ruckman is 100% wrong!

    I agree with you. [​IMG]

    Do you understand the meaning of accurate?
     
    #30 Askjo, Mar 6, 2004
  11. michelle

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    Peace and love to you all in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,


    Dr. BoB,


    --------------------------------------------------
    Dr. Bob quoted:

    They should be going for TRonly or such - to the beginning, that there is an absolute standard and truth. That would rest on the Greek/Hebrew.
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    Isn't this what I have been saying? I have been labeled KJVO, but I am not KJVO, I am actually what just hit you with the above quote. I truly believe that there is a possibilty to translate an easier english reading Bible based upon the correct texts - Recieved Texts, using correct translation methods. Although I personally do not think it is necessary. I also fear that in this day of ever increasing apostacy, that it would be difficult to trust. But my aversion to the mv's, are not because they are another english translation of the Bible, but because of the texts that underline them, and the methods used for translation of them.


    Love in Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour,
    michelle
     
    #31 michelle, Mar 6, 2004
  12. russell55

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    So you approve of those modern versions that are based on the TR?
     
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    Michelle: "I truly believe that there is a possibilty
    to translate an easier english reading Bible based
    upon the correct texts - Recieved Texts, using
    correct translation methods."

    Why has Gail Riplinger denounced every modern version
    as soon as it comes out -- this is irregardless
    of the base upon which the MV is based?
    RT based - Gail denounces.
    KJV based - Gail denounces.

    BTW, thank you for using the correct term,
    "Received Texts". Most people, especially KJVOs
    use "Received Text". There are multiple Texts
    in the RT = Received Texts.

    S.Luke XVII:36 (KJV1611):

    || Two men shall be in the field;
    the one shall be taken, and the other left.

    sidenote: || This 36 verse is wanting in most
    of the Greek copies

    [​IMG]
     
    #33 Ed Edwards, Mar 6, 2004
  14. rsr

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    Trouble is, there is a problem is knowing what the "Received Text" is, according to the KJV translators. They did not follow the Erasmus-based text completely, and there is no extant record of what they actually based their translation upon. It was left to Scrivener (in a work of tremendous scholarship) to reconstruct the text of the NT of the KJV.
     
    #34 rsr, Mar 6, 2004
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    And even he had to admit there were about a half dozen places where he could not determine the source of the KJV reading. [​IMG]
     
    #35 skanwmatos, Mar 7, 2004
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