The Koch brothers and the Republican Party go to war — with each other

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  1. Zaac

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    They are evil. The RNC was money hungry and shouldn't have ever have trusted them.
     
  2. Crabtownboy

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    If the Koch brothers rule the GOP, as they obviously hope to, than they would be the dictators behind the throne if the GOP controlled both Congress and the White House. And then where would our democracy be ... probably at an end.

    This is the potential disaster created by the GOP packed Supreme Court.
     
  3. Zaac

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    Yep. Another reason why the GOP is gonna get swamped in 2016.
     
  4. Revmitchell

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    Right now George Sorros rules the WH based on your logic
     
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    You beat me to it, Rev. :thumbs:
     
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    Not so. He does not control the voter records and control how they are approached. Hardly the same. He might like to have that power, but he doesn't.

    Regardless Citizens United should be overturned and this type of power taken away from the super rich. Otherwise we are establishing a nobility class who will rule all of us economically and politically. If you think they have your or my best interest at heart then I know of a big bridge nearby that I will sell you.
     
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    First, the rich do not control voter records. Obama Hillary and everyone else takes money from corporations and on top of that Hillary takes money from other countries governments. Yea no control there either huh? :rolleyes:
     
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    But the K brothers want to and even access to them gives them unimaginable power. Perhaps you do not mind the idea of the super-rich controlling the government. I mind, I mind greatly regardless of which party they are in.

    The horrible Citizens United decision should be overturned and power given back to the average American voter.

     
  9. Revmitchell

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    Then you don't want Obama or Hillary in office because they obtain donations from the rich just like anyone else. Only Hillary also gets her donations from other countries governments who also want control over what we do. But...sigh....I guess that can be over looked because she carries the same ideology as you.
     
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    I'd love to see the Republican Party fall out with the Jews and tell AIPAC to go jump in the lake and become the Grand Old Party once again.

    But that's just fantasy, it'll never happen.
     
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    Pastor's with no rational answers should not engage in falsehoods.

    I do not want the super rich having extreme powers in either party. Because of your GOP Supreme Court that is what they now have.
     
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    Then you should have mentioned that in post # 2
     
  13. Revmitchell

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    What falsehoods?
     
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    You just told another falsehood. You know well what I am referring to. But as you would never acknowledge it I will tell you ... that I agree with everything in Hillary's agenda. I would appreciate it if you would refrain from such broad sweeping falsehoods in the future.
     
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    I have never said that. Not in this thread nor any other. So no there was no falsehood told by me. When I nail you on your inconsistencies you come up with these kind of distractions.
     
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    You stupidly said:

    Your lie is exposed. It is plain to see from your quote that you were say ing that I agreed with everything in Hillary's ideology. That is patently false. I will accept an apology.

    Now, grow up, stop being an immature teenager and discussion rationally. I know this is a big change for you. But it is a very sad thing for an older person to remain an inane, impolite teenager.
     
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    So I nail you on your inconsistency and you distract with this garbage. That is right it is plain for everyone to see. What I said does not mean every single thing. No one would take it that way, in fact you didn't you just want to portray it as such because you have no answer for anything else.

    The immaturity is yours. At your age you should be more honest in your posting and in better self control. You let your anger get away with you here.
     
  18. Zaac

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    You DID say the SAME ideology. Should that not be taken as every single thing the same? I mean SAME means SAME. :laugh:
     
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    Everyone would take it that way. If two people have the same ideology they agree on everything. You are simply too dishonest to admit what you really meant.

    You simply spout insults, but do not contribute anything of intelligence to a discussion such as this. You seem to thing it is cute, but it is only immature sophomoric ranting.

    Either grow up and some some intelligence or simply stop your nonsense adolescence postings. I doubt you would let you children be so immature.
     
  20. MicahJF612

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    Let's all take a moment to settle down. Ad hominem attacks against one another are A) not productive and B) not Christian. So both of you should turn the other cheek on the matter and forgive one another.

    Forgiveness, however, does not mean conceding the point. A conservative court allowed corporations the power to pursue this end, which could very easily (as is evidenced by this movement within the RNC) result in the end of our democracy. We began as an oligarchy of the propertied white man, and I suppose we may end in an oligarchy of the billionaire white man, if we don't attempt to change.

    There is a significant difference between any rich donor to political parties and the Koch brothers. Other donors try to influence politics with their money which, while dangerous, is not fatal. The Kock brothers are literally trying to control politics, establishing an entire movement within the Republican party to maintain their agenda. They will spend more on this next election alone than all the money spent on the election in 2000, even adjusted for inflation. Now, isn't that a little bit scary, regardless of party affiliation?

    I am no fan of Hillary Clinton, but these allegations that she accepted money from other governments are frankly unfounded. They're simply your attempt at distracting this conversation from the real issue at hand, which you have done successfully until this point. Let's discuss this issue seriously, rather than running around as partisans bickering over ridiculous points. Do not allow Caesar to make you a circus to distract you from what is really happening.
     

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