The Latest Cop Civilian Confrontation

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  1. InTheLight

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    Members of the Christian band "Matthew 24" refuse to cooperate with the local police starting a lengthy brawl and resulting in one dead civilian and one cop shot in the leg. A Wal Mart security guy steps in and goes toe-to-toe with suspects in an attempt to help the police.

    Watching the video I got the sense that these are some inept cops.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6e3_1428698048
     
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    They are a "Christian" band?

    Guess that goes to show:
     
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    First Thought - Peter cutting off the ear of the Solider.
     
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    The Cottonwood Police Department should hire that Walmart employee.
     
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    How so? I saw nothing that gave that impression.

    From a press conference at which the video was played in 1/4 rate:

    FNN: Dashcam video of WalMart brawl and shooting

    Published on Apr 10, 2015

    Cottonwood police chief Jody Fanning reviews the dashcam footage from a brawl in a WalMart parking lot in March, 2015. Nine suspects and eight officers were involved. One suspect was killed, and an officer was shot in the leg. The police chief reviews the video twice, outlining exactly what happened.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki-R0d7DIAE&feature=youtu.be
     
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    Trying to use minimum force necessary can make them look foolish, even one on one.

    It's tougher against a gang of 8. They were vastly outnumbered in the beginning.
     
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    You know I look at a video like this in terms of all the other police violence we've witnessed lately with police killing black men. It certainly did take a while to use deadly force. Maybe these guys were just a little better trained and knew that deadly force should be a last resort instead of a drive up and BAM you're dead resort.

    I honestly believe if those folks were Black, more than one would be dead right now.

    Sad situation.
     
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    Your post is even more sad.

    Considering your level of denial when it comes to all things racial, what you believe is as irrelevant as your denial is pitiful.
     
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    Yep. Tamir Rice got about 2 seconds and stepped into eternity.

    For nearly 10 minutes these cops used fists, batons, tasers, pepper spray and then deadly force as a last resort.

    So I wonder what made this group of folks look less threatening than a 12 year old with a toy?
     
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    It's pitiful how quick he is to gossip. Race comes up whether it's relevant or not. Zaac's making sure nobody can have an intelligent conversation. It's the old Zaac times ten.
     
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    If you want to have the same old non-discussion about the same old non-nothing while ignoring the white elephant in the room, form your own club and do so.:thumbsup:

    My range of discussion isn't limited by folks who want to ignore the truth.
     
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    Yes, that was the problem. How many times can you tell at someone "GET DOWN" while they are taking swings at you before you crack some heads.

    Yes, but the gang is a 55 year old man, a 50 something woman, two juveniles, an 18, 21, 27 year old and a 29 year old.

    The cops should have gone after the 2 biggest guys right away and take control of the situation. They never had control of anything. A suspect taking an officer's gun is a cardinal sin for police officers.

    Even the way they initially approached them was wrong. "We're going to separate you and ask some questions" should have been "you and you are coming with us".
     
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    You're a stuck record, Zaac. You've got nothing new to say. Race isn't a part of this, as much as you need it to be.
     
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    Insult these officers without cause. That is what is sad.
     
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    Ironically, this post is pure racism, or at the very least, stereotyping (of which racism is a subset). It is allowing your perception of someone to be altered by the actions of someone else.


    Zaac, with all the speaking out against racism you do, I am honestly surprised you would post in such a manner.
     
  16. Zaac

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    Why should I have something new to say when the same thing is happening every day?

    You don't think race is a part of it. I disagree.
     
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    Race could not possibly be an issue in this OP. You need help.
     
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    My perception hasn't been altered by anything. I'm just speaking from what I'm seeing and hearing in the news. Based upon what I have seen of cops in the news lately, I highly doubt there wouldn't be more dead folks if they were Black.


    In what manner? The manner that causes white people to stop pretending like everything is alright and that police officers aren't killing black people while apparently doing everything they can to not kill white suspects?

    As I've said. I'm real. I deal with black adults and students all the time. And while most of the folks on this board sit back and believe the mess that they've been conditioned to believe, the people in the Black communities have a completely different viewpoint.

    They see the way the black suspects are always portrayed as violent career criminals while the white suspects are portrayed as the good students or as the family men.

    They see the way the black suspects are shot dead as a first option while the white suspects are treated as if the last thing anyone wants to do is shoot them.

    White people have produced this movie. So don't blame me for critiquing it.


    The Boston Marathon Bomber? Shoots at police. ALIVE.

    What about the guy who shot up the movie theater?

    The list grows everyday showing how police in these United States seem to do everything they can to keep from killing white suspects but just the opposite when the suspects are Black.

    So if you think it makes me a racist to recognize the disparity of treatment of Blacks vs Whites by the police, I simply don't have a problem with it.

    Some of you seem to think that ignoring it and saying it's not so, is gonna make it go away.

    And as I've said before . The genie is out of the bottle and the world has seen it. Somebodies better start acknowledging the truth real quick or this country is heading for an all out race war.
     
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    You need help . Just because you're willfully blind to reality doesn't mean that I have to be.
     
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    Race is not an issue in this OP, Zaac. The fact that you see it says more about your dishonesty than it does anything about anyone else.
     

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